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People around here seem to think it is...

I don't like DRM!! I'll never stop complaining about the evils of DRM!! LOL
I would of actually liked to seen the xboxone at its original form cause it would prove a system like that could work but no evil drm, etc. get over it games take money. i'll actually give an approximation to what it could cause similar to piracy: a 100 man studio has blown all their money into one game and published it to all the gamestops and stuff but they lack sales and infact didn['t get enough money to profit and the publishers decided to dump them and 100 or so people lost their jobs would you feel good then? if it was an amazing game you loved to death and wanted a sequel.
    
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I would of actually liked to seen the xboxone at its original form cause it would prove a system like that could work but no evil drm, etc. get over it games take money. i'll actually give an approximation to what it could cause similar to piracy: a 100 man studio has blown all their money into one game and published it to all the gamestops and stuff but they lack sales and infact didn['t get enough money to profit and the publishers decided to dump them and 100 or so people lost their jobs would you feel good then? if it was an amazing game you loved to death and wanted a sequel.
Another company would buy up the IP and release the sequel. If for nothing else then for a money grab.

As far as piracy goes as far as I'm aware there has been no proof that it really hurts the sales, i.e., that people who would have otherwise bought the game did not bcos of piracy. Although publishers ofc love to show some very big numbers in that regard from time to time. In my personal opinion "piracy" as it is currently is more like a " full demo" where you can sort of try out the game for free (although its illegal ofc) and then buy it if its actually good and not all just marketing hype
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As far as piracy goes as far as I'm aware there has been no proof that it really hurts the sales, i.e., that people who would have otherwise bought the game did not bcos of piracy. Although publishers ofc love to show some very big numbers in that regard from time to time. In my personal opinion "piracy" as it is currently is more like a " full demo" where you can sort of try out the game for free (although its illegal ofc) and then buy it if its actually good and not all just marketing hype

Most pirates never buy the game, even if they liked it. In a game I used to play several hours every day, about half of the people who played as much as I did pirated the game... even years later when it could be had for $10. They obviously liked it, but had no intention of ever paying since the pirated version worked fine.

Pirates buying the game if they like it is just as overstated as the companies assuming every pirated copy is a lost sale tongue.gif. Unfortunately it's hard to determine the impact of piracy, since game sales vary by too many factors to have a comparison. Knowing Microsoft, I'm sure DRM will be in full force... hopefully it will be like steam where you don't notice it.
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You don't notice not being able to resell your games? lol

Also, Ubisoft is supposed to, IIRC, stop making games for the PC, because they claim that a whopping 98% of their games are pirated. What a ridiculous number.
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You don't notice not being able to resell your games? lol

Also, Ubisoft is supposed to, IIRC, stop making games for the PC, because they claim that a whopping 98% of their games are pirated. What a ridiculous number.

lol, that can actually be true, seeing as everythings on the net.
Secondly, going all console wouldn't change anything. it just makes development easier for them and i guess the hackers too.
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In related news, GFWL is dead, not just the Marketplace but supposedly the service as well will be discontinued in July 2014.

I didn't want to make a new thread because it's not confirmed yet, but here's the source:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/19/games-for-windows-live-shutting-down-in-2014

Praise the Lord if true.
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I'll just be honest at this point i really don't want another digital distributing program that certain games will be tied to. It's already a personal annoyance to have to launch three different programs for three different games because they're all bound to their digital distributor. Now we're going to have a fourth it seems.
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I'll just be honest at this point i really don't want another digital distributing program that certain games will be tied to. It's already a personal annoyance to have to launch three different programs for three different games because they're all bound to their digital distributor. Now we're going to have a fourth it seems.

But in reality this kind of stuff is unavoidable as every major publisher wants to do his own store for saving on that 30% cut and potentially gain 30% cut from the games they did not to invest to to make them happen. For getting people in their little garden (for luring in potential third party sellers giving them a cut) they need major exclusive titles. So I do not think this will stop at just four major platforms. And while inconvenient it is not inherently bad as I would think that without any kind of competition (if you can call current alternatives that) Steam would not be quite what it is today - granted its the market leader atm and others are sort of playing catch up with it but that does not mean they would not glance at their less-than-popular competitions from the corner of their eye and be aware that they cant quite do just anything they want bcos there is some potential competition trying to exploit and mistakes they will do.

Just switch the platforms off so that they all do not run at start-up and fire them up when you want to play a game on that platform. Sort of similar to the age where there was no digital distribution and you had to actually go and launch that game you wanted instead of going at it through some additional UI showing you the list of your installed games wink.gif
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