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Okay, so I'm going water cooling for my new rig and I was wondering what the best setup is... Let's start out first with coolant. I'm willing to spend up to $50 for a bottle of very good Liquid Coolant. I was on Frozen-CPU and these two coolants caught my eye:
PrimoChill ICE Non-Conductive Coolant
Fluid XP+ Extreme Non-Conductive Coolant

Does Thermal Paste help on a CPU Water Block, if so which would be better - Arctic Silver 5 or Coollaborty Liquid Metal Pro - if the CPU Block is gold or copper (haven't decided)? Lastly, will lapping the contact surface on the actual CPU help lower temps? Oh, and the only component in the loop with be my CPU, if that matters. Sorry for asking so many questions but basically I want to know what would be the best way to drop temps and the only way to do that is to disipate heat faster. Thus, better coolant and thermal paste disipate heat better, therefore, lower temps.

For Liquid Coolant + Thermal Paste + Lapping Materials I'm willing to spend up to $100 but I'm not worried about price, I can always wait an extra month to get my Liquid Cooling - I'll just use my Big Typhoon.

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Of the 2 liquids I'd go with fluid XP+ Extreme. (I got some myself)
For paste I always go with Arctic Silver 5.
For lapping, If you get a nice block its going to be pretty much lapped already. If you have to lap it yourself you might see a 1C drop.

Some of this stuff is personal taste though, so I guess that would be my opinion.
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Like I said in the other post.... Distilled Water + Zerex = $8. That's enough for 4-5 refills.



Arctic Silver 5 because the Liquid Metal crap is too hard to work with and damaging. ***? Where do they sell a gold CPU block? Why would they sell a gold block since copper performs better? Lapping of course helps.

"Thus, better coolant and thermal paste dissipate heat better, therefore, lower temps." Very wrong. Better coolant (there aren't any really feasible ones) would just allow heat to be transferred and transported better. Good thermal paste decreases the inefficient air pockets. Neither dissipate heat. The radiator is the unit that dissipates heat.
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Some CPU Blocks, like Zalman's and I think I saw another, were gold plated copper, but I didn't want the Liquid Metal to chew through the Gold since it's pre-lapped and everything - plus, hell, it's gold. So, Arctic Silver 5. But for coolant, I wasn't deciding between the two, those were two candidates, I was wondering which was the best coolant. Period. Anything that can give me lower temps is better, obviously, so which company makes really good, high performance coolant? And DuckieHo, you know what I mean. The thermal paste takes the heat away from CPU and the water "carries" that heat to the radiator where it is disipated, I just couldn't find a word for it.

So, Arctic Silver 5 - $10 Shipped + Lapping Kit for lapping CPU surface and maybe CPU Block - $15. $25 Total, leaving $75 for coolant. I'd like to spend about $30-40 for a bottle, doesn't matter to me if I need to mix it with Distilled water or not.

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Like I keep saying.... Distilled Water + Zerex automotive antifreeze will cost about $7. This will give you virtually the same performance as any other $50 fluid on the market. Not worth spending an extra $45 every 6 months for less than a 1C difference.
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Okay. But... PrimoChill makes Zerex and ICE so... there's probably a 1-2C difference between the products if one is $8.00 and one is $20.00. Actually, ICE is a 32oz bottle for $20. While 32oz of Zerex would cost $32... interesting.

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well you saw a picture of my rig in your last thread so you know what I have and how its mounted.

my ambient is typically 28.33C
My idle temp is (31C "cpu temp") (30C "Core temp")
My load temp is (38C "cpu temp") (39C "core temp")

so roughly the load temp is 10-11C over room temp.
My cpu is at 1.557volts..

When I get it out of this 83F-28.33C room and take it to a lan its typicly in the 20's C range at load.

Those are my personal numbers for Fluid XP+
Duckieho, the non-cunductive part of the formula is what your paying for.
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And DuckieHo, you know what I mean. The thermal paste takes the heat away from CPU and the water "carries" that heat to the radiator where it is disipated, I just couldn't find a word for it.

lol, yeah, I was about to point that out.. thats what I understood you as meaning


But I have a thought...

Thermal paste is used because the Heatsync (and CPU die) though they may look and feel smooth and flat.. are really not entirely, so there are points on both surfaces that are not making full contact ("air pockets"?) anywho.. we all know this, but my question is.. having this in mind.. wouldnt a LIQUID coolant better achieve what thermal paste was designed to?

I.E - wouldnt the liquid flow into every little microscopic ditch ect on the CPU's die?
Why then use thermal paste (I would think thermal paste would actually hamper the effectiveness that anything else)
Has anyone ever actually proven that... using paste helps?
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post #9 of 38
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Nice temps, so ICE would be better since it's less conductive than distilled water?

Grim: I don't know, actually, I've never done Liquid Cooling before, but I think the contact surface of the CPU Block touches the top of the CPU but the water actuall never touches the CPU so grease is still used from the Block to the CPU.
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Nice temps, so ICE would be better since it's less conductive than distilled water?

dono about PC ICE but I've read reviews that say Fluid xp+ is for at least a while.
I have no experience it pc ice though, so I'm not going to dog it when I've never tried it for my self like some people...
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