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No offense, but if you thought Apple fanboys were pretentious about their phones, I could imagine that tenfold with the owners of this phone. Sure you'll have that reasonable person every now and then, but for the most part, it would just be unmistakably notorious for it's user-base.

Thank you for showing us the future, Oh Great and Wise One !
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App Compatibility, which has nothing to do with either OS really. If you have everything you want on Linux it generally is a better desktop OS in this day and age.
Ubuntu is in an area where there's already a big competitor and it has no massive advantage over the sheer amount of Windows only programs, Android was in an area where programs needed to be rewritten anyway and there was no budget competitor nor areas for Samsung, HTC, etc to compete well with the iPhone.

Agreed.
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This wont be funded, but It'll still be available in the future.
Still havent purchased a smart phone \m/

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And if you read my post you would have clued in on "liabilities". Your TV, servers, routers, phones, cars, consoles, phones, etc., run on Linux and what company, or person, hired or providing, do you go to that is legal bounded to provide you support? Oh wait... wink.gif

You... of all OCN members. Lol

Sooo.... what exactly is your argument? You had stated that "Linux is bad." Define that statement.

Liabilities and support are separate from the technical merits.

The real power is that I can choose (or force) to install my OWN build of Linux on many things so I no longer need to wait for these vendor support.

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App Compatibility, which has nothing to do with either OS really. If you have everything you want on Linux it generally is a better desktop OS in this day and age.
Ubuntu is in an area where there's already a big competitor and it has no massive advantage over the sheer amount of Windows only programs, Android was in an area where programs needed to be rewritten anyway and there was no budget competitor nor areas for Samsung, HTC, etc to compete well with the iPhone.
Most Android apps should run natively on Ubuntu. The apps are written in Java and use mostly standard calls.
Edited by DuckieHo - 8/17/13 at 6:25am
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Sooo.... what exactly is your argument? You had stated that "Linux is bad." Define that statement.

Liabilities and support are separate from the technical merits.


The real power is that I can choose (or force) to install my OWN build of Linux on many things so I no longer need to wait for these vendor support.
Most Android apps should run natively on Ubuntu. The apps are written in Java and use mostly standard calls.



I don't think people really understand what Linux is, and why people use it.
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No offense, but if you thought Apple fanboys were pretentious about their phones, I could imagine that tenfold with the owners of this phone. Sure you'll have that reasonable person every now and then, but for the most part, it would just be unmistakably notorious for it's user-base.

I could say the same for Android fanboys. Fanboys from every side are just as bad.
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Oh, a phone with an OS that doesn't work out of the box and requires command line knowledge to do anything... tongue.gif

Yeah my several experiences trying to adopt Linux have ended in me running back to Windows hah.
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Oh, a phone with an OS that doesn't work out of the box and requires command line knowledge to do anything... tongue.gif

Yeah my several experiences trying to adopt Linux have ended in me running back to Windows hah.

You do NOT need command line knowledge to run Ubuntu. Unless you are a power user ( and even then it's by choice, as mostly all power user stuff is more efficient in the CLI ), then you can stay completely in the GUI with no problem.
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Oh, a phone with an OS that doesn't work out of the box and requires command line knowledge to do anything... tongue.gif

Yeah my several experiences trying to adopt Linux have ended in me running back to Windows hah.

Shrak is correct. Canonical has worked their bums off to make it so you never have to touch a command line in their OS.
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And if you read my post you would have clued in on "liabilities". Your TV, servers, routers, phones, cars, consoles, phones, etc., run on Linux and what company, or person, hired or providing, do you go to that is legal bounded to provide you support? Oh wait... wink.gif

You... of all OCN members. Lol

Sooo.... what exactly is your argument? You had stated that "Linux is bad." Define that statement.

Liabilities and support are separate from the technical merits.

The real power is that I can choose (or force) to install my OWN build of Linux on many things so I no longer need to wait for these vendor support.

You host your own servers, don't you? You run them under Linux? You pay someone, who is under contract, to maintain them, don't you? That is what legally bound means. Someone is liable for mistakes and must give support. If you manage your own servers, on your own free will, without hiring someone else, then that is your own mistake. You're on your own and is a relatively BAD business move for any large/small business.

But I never did say "Linux was bad"; if you could read "And as bad as Linux is, as long as it is either on a closed platform or backed by liabilities, I do support having this phone in the market." then you would understand that Linux is only "good" when it is backed, legally (someone is LIABLE). Linux is free, works for basic requirements, does 99% of what the average home user uses, and why isn't it beating windows (in this context, Duckie, we are referring to daaaaahhsktooops!)?

If you have worked with Windows, you can also have this "real power" of self management and a choice to install the software on your own. (LOL!!!) You can also look at your vender and be guaranteed support instead of waiting for some crackshoots to help you if they so choose. Or, you have to wait for someone in the community to figure it out themselves. Nothing wrong with the self, I'm talking about in a business sense and why "Ubuntu" and other OPEN Linux software just sucks. Samsung, Google, and many others that use it are legally bound. People make money for maintaining the OS. Like holy crap, this is common sense.
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Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post

App Compatibility, which has nothing to do with either OS really. If you have everything you want on Linux it generally is a better desktop OS in this day and age.
Ubuntu is in an area where there's already a big competitor and it has no massive advantage over the sheer amount of Windows only programs, Android was in an area where programs needed to be rewritten anyway and there was no budget competitor nor areas for Samsung, HTC, etc to compete well with the iPhone.
Most Android apps should run natively on Ubuntu. The apps are written in Java and use mostly standard calls.

Yup; so that argument is moot.

Think of it this way. If a phone company backed this phone, and someone phones up with a problem because they aren't tech savvy, the phone company will have to legally support the phone, offer warranty, attempt a solution, etc. If they don't, one, the phone fails and doesn't last long as a major market player, or two, no one even buys the phone to because with because it has a huge "you are sh out of luck" written all over it.

What you do on your free time is up to you, no big players care. Companies will experiment if they see an advantage, like some companies are doing with using Chrome as a SECONDARY browser for their major industries that are constantly under threat by PETA and other "Green" parties; but they don't use it as their main..
Edited by Domino - 8/17/13 at 12:09pm
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