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post #1 of 8
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Okay,
So in the past month I have built three computers for various friends and did not have a single issue. However, with this fourth build, I am about to do what the title says out of frustration.
Now, here is how it started. The specs of this build
fx 6300 cpu
asus sabertooth 990fx v2.0
gskill ram (two different kits now, one 16 2x8 kit at 1866 and currently a 4 2x2 kit at 1600)
h70 water cooler
asus dvd drive
crucial m4 ssd 256gb
7970 oc ghz edition gpu
c70 vengenance case
corsair hx750 modular psu

Ok so everything was put together and the computer booted into bios fine (at first). started to experience random refusals to boot, ie fans spinning and lights on but no display around a quarter of the time. not the gpu, that ran fine on a separate board for 15 min no issues. same power supply. was kinda thinking ram but not sure if the bios was corrupt or something weird, especially based upon the fact that it froze in bios, all text disappeared, and only background for uefi showing, no response to anything besides a flip of the psu switch. Linux freaked out and wouldnt let me boot off the disc. windows xp(to upgrade to 8) started to load then bsod. windows 7 actually gave me a memory specific error code, page file in unpaged area or something like that. so i ran memtest on both sticks of 16gb 1866 ram. tons of errors!! mad.gif

Ran on stick memtest... one error, computer completely frozen for an hour before i said screw it and turned it off.

I received a 4gb kit (also gskill) in the mail for my test rig, so i tried that in there. Linux installed no issues, ran for an in linux no issues. Windows xp installed without a hitch, upgraded to windows 8 no problems. Download graphics card drivers fine, msi afterburner and coretemp after installing 8.1 preview. no issues. i then try to open core temp. nothing happens. ok... lets open msi afterburner... nothing. google chrome.. works perfectly fine. 3 seconds later... windows 8 style error message comes up saying your computer has an issue and we are restarting it blah blah blah error code MEMORY_MANAGEMENT. ok...

I then restarted the computer. boots to desktop fine. even runs coretemp and msi afterburner. ok so one time issue? WRONG! since coretemp was telling me my cpu temp was 50 degrees celsius, i put hwmonitor on there and poof, more believable numbers. turned off computer for dinner.

Came back to the computer and turned it on, went to bios to bump up speed to 1600mhz ram wise. also verified that timings and voltage were correct. tried to boot to windows....
entered password.
error MEMORY_MANAGEMENT after hitting enter.
restart.
go to bios and manually set dram voltage to 1.5v (what the kit is rated for)
boot to windows....
entered password.
error MEMORY_MANAGEMENT after hitting enter.
restart.
ok check settings again. nothing changed. try again
boot to windows....
entered password.
error MEMORY_MANAGEMENT after hitting enter.
restart.
loaded optimized defaults...
boot to windows....
entered password.
error MEMORY_MANAGEMENT after hitting enter.
restart.

okay so that was getting stupid annoying so I currently am having the memtest run on the computer to see what happens. Just wanted to see if anyone here would know what is going on.
Is it a timing issue? Should i make it looser then to see what happens?
Motherboard issue? Bios setting? I have heard people talk about a docp menu or mode for ram, do I need this? Should I upgrade bios? im scared to right now due to ram randomly restarting computer, dont want that to happen in midst of a bios flash.
Windows 8.1 issue? drivers incompatible?
Gskill ram just doesnt play nice with asus motherboard? or vice versa?
Have used gskill ram in the past without any issues, i cant believe both of these kits are bad.

And the weird thing is the person i bought the 16gb kit from said they ran fine in his intel build. so assuming he isnt lying (probably not based on heatware) why the memtest errors?

Motherboard was also used previously (very lightly looked brand new) so that being the issue or the motherboard being bad doesnt seem feasible.

Any and all help, advice, tips, ideas, etc would be helpful and would be much appreciated!thumb.gif
post #2 of 8
Mike sure the timings are correct , If not run a Memory test ( its in windows start type memory d -first program) to see if the ram is bad
post #3 of 8
Set mem volts to 1.55v & check....
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post #4 of 8
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ok running memtest through linux boot cd now. will try bumping up voltage to see what happens. that was one thing i did forget to mention, the dram voltage was on auto and said 1.491v. said the same thing too when i set it manually to 1.505
post #5 of 8
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My sister had the bright (no pun intended) idea of running the iron on the same circuit as this build and my mining rig. shorted everything out, finally got it back now. Took the opportunity to try the 1.55v setting, nada.

Tried setting an oc profile by turning on docp mode on bios and selecting it to oc to 1600.
nada

also tried on 1333... got to where tiles flow from center of screen to a quarter of the area of the screen filled in the center before the error memory management came up again.

restarted memtest...
post #6 of 8
Test the RAM in a different PC to see if it's just bad luck on the sticks.

Has the CPU been used before? It's possible, but rare, that the memory controller could be bad.
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post #7 of 8
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cpu is the only part besides case, fans, and dvd drive that is brand new. the thing is the sticks worked fine in linux and when installing xp and 8. will try in another machine after i get the memtest results back. this is the second set of ram too though.. anyway, going to a friends tomorrow, he has two kits that i can try.
post #8 of 8
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alright so after looking at google for a bit, found that booting into safe mode by holding down f8 and disabling an asus startup oc utility solves the problem... however i cannot find said utility but have been able to do normal desktop tasks in desktop mode. added on asus motherboard drivers and rebooted. same issue.

so i guess for now temporary fix is to hold down f8 while windows is boothing... works perfectly that way. any ideas on whats causing it then? ram should be fine if i can get to safe mode, correct?
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