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When people debate a new game, the phrase "that's just a gimmick" tends to pop up. Gimmick has an obvious negative connotation that the so called "feature" isn't as great as the devs are making it out to be, but what really separates a gimmicky feature from an actual feature?

I'm going to take a feature from FPS games: ADS (aim down sights). I think that most people will say that ADS is a feature. But you could argue that most old FPS games as well as modern games like CS show that nobody really needs ADS on anything except maybe a high magnification scope. So is it a gimmick since it's not really necessary, or is there something about ADS that makes it feature worthy? If so, what is it?

More generally, what should be the default assumption about new features? Should they be treated as gimmicks till they can be proven features, or should they be treated as features until they can be proven gimmicks? Going both ways then, what aspects of a gimmick make it a feature or what aspects of a feature make it a gimmick?

Another question along these lines is whether a gimmick really deserves its connotation. Some people talk about gimmicks like they should be cut from games, but don't all features go through a gimmicky stage before maturing into features? Sure moving around in a 3D overworld was a total gimmick when it first came out, but years down the road there's no doubting that having a 3D world is a feature. Imagine if all gimmick killers had their way in everything, wouldn't we be stuck with 2D black and white games since that's "all you need to play"? Sure that's a little radical, but it's meant to drive my point that the line between gimmick and feature is blurry and gimmicks might not deserve all the heat they get.

Anyway... what do you think?
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What is "gimmicky" to some, enriches others' experiences.
What enriches others' experiences, is "gimmicky" to some.

Nothing can make everybody happy.
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What is "gimmicky" to some, enriches others' experiences.
What enriches others' experiences, is "gimmicky" to some.

Nothing can make everybody happy.

This.
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Gimmick: Something that's only there so that the dev/publisher can say it's there. I.e. Multiplayer in MANY games (Spec Ops, STALKER, etc.)

Feature: Something that's there to improve the game, but isn't essential: Achivements, Single-player in MP games (BF2, Red Orchestra), etc.

It's a thin line. Like others have said, what some think is a gimmick, others really like. I personally thought the MP in Crysis 2 and 3 was entirely pointless, and was just there as a back-of-the-box feature. Others really liked it.
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If you use it, it's a feature.

If it 'sounds cool' but is never used, it's a gimmick.

Think about for example... A proper positional audio engine is a feature. ASUS' 'step radar' is a gimmick.
   
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Originally Posted by Dae314 View Post

When people debate a new game, the phrase "that's just a gimmick" tends to pop up. Gimmick has an obvious negative connotation that the so called "feature" isn't as great as the devs are making it out to be, but what really separates a gimmicky feature from an actual feature?

I'm going to take a feature from FPS games: ADS (aim down sights). I think that most people will say that ADS is a feature. But you could argue that most old FPS games as well as modern games like CS show that nobody really needs ADS on anything except maybe a high magnification scope. So is it a gimmick since it's not really necessary, or is there something about ADS that makes it feature worthy? If so, what is it?

More generally, what should be the default assumption about new features? Should they be treated as gimmicks till they can be proven features, or should they be treated as features until they can be proven gimmicks? Going both ways then, what aspects of a gimmick make it a feature or what aspects of a feature make it a gimmick?

Another question along these lines is whether a gimmick really deserves its connotation. Some people talk about gimmicks like they should be cut from games, but don't all features go through a gimmicky stage before maturing into features? Sure moving around in a 3D overworld was a total gimmick when it first came out, but years down the road there's no doubting that having a 3D world is a feature. Imagine if all gimmick killers had their way in everything, wouldn't we be stuck with 2D black and white games since that's "all you need to play"? Sure that's a little radical, but it's meant to drive my point that the line between gimmick and feature is blurry and gimmicks might not deserve all the heat they get.

Anyway... what do you think?

 

Not sure I understand, because ADS is a term you are using, but it's is not an all-or-nothing thing.

 

I don't think you choose a good analogy for gimmick vs  feature. (You can aim, then not aim. Aiming works, is usable and mimics real life actions.)

 

 

A gimmick is like in COD when they have things you cannot interact with, but they try to make it look like their game is that much depth. A gimmick is... extra shuffling pappers in Batman game, because you bought a second gpu for PhysX, etc.

 

Gimmicks are superficial things that are meant to seem real, but are not.

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