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I currently have an Intel Core 2 Quad, Q9550 (2.83 Ghz). This has been sufficient for me to run most recent games at very high settings. Recently though, I got myself a new GTX 670 to try to give myself some much smoother framerates.

When I'm looking at a game's vistas, or comparing framerates to before, there's definitely a big jump. However, currently there's still just a few things that irritate me about my current setup. I occasionally take dips in framerate when I'm in combat, with people all around me, or when there's a lot of action going on. I started to think about how many iterations the Intel processors have gone through since then. Just comparing the Ghz, there likely wouldn't be a lot I would be gaining, but I know with both GPUs and CPUs, you have to look past that.

Has anyone here made this sort of upgrade, and could tell me whether it's likely to smooth out framerates a bit?

I'd been considering a Haswell Core i5, which would pretty much mean rebuilding my entire computer. Motherboard, memory, and likely the case too while I'm at it. This would also bring me a few other advantages:

-USB 3.0
-PCI Express 3.0 (my current card is 3.0, but in a 2.0 slot - I'm unaware how much this would affect speed)
-DDR3 RAM
-Enabled virtualization for certain types of coding
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You will most diffidently see a difference. I went from a fist gen core i5 overclocked @ 4.4Ghz (dual core with HT) and a GTX 460, upgraded the GPU to a AMD 7950 and saw a jump in performance. It never seemed smooth to me even-though the FPS counter was clearly above 60FPS in BF3. I had the upgrade bug and sprung for a 3770K and the sig rig below. Using the same GPU I saw MUCH better frames as my little I5 was holding back my GPU BIG TIME!, I dont like to use the term bottlenecked but it was pretty apparent once I fire up the first 5 seconds of BF3 on the new system, and not even overclocked like I have now.

For gaming the speed of the cores matter much more then how many of them you have. and a jump from a COre 2 quad to a haswell i5 would be quite a jump!!
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You will see about 45 percent more in performance
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Actually, I figured I would give a follow-up question.

I was looking at the pricing of various motherboards. Often, the rationale for going for a more expensive item is that it performs faster, or has more features. But for motherboards, I'm more confused. Even the cheaper ones tend to have all the features I'm really looking for. The only thing I've heard mentioned is that the more expensive ones might have more reliable components, and last longer. But they tend to have warrantees of a full three years (not that it's very much fun stripping your computer apart for a humming issue with your onboard sound)
In order to keep the costs of an upgrade down, I'm kind of thinking of getting a motherboard in the $80 area, or possibly lower. Keep in mind I have little to no intention of doing any overclocking. Would that be a safe bet?
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you really have to decide on the overclocking portion to determine if you will have to go with the Z87 chip set or not.


cheapest Z87 mobo I would personally trust, SLI support, good overclocking, nice memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157372


Generally when picking up a motherboard you want to look at the features. With haswell the MB doesn't matter that much to overclock its more your chip. the add ons that determine what is what would be brand preference or maybe other features like PLX chips, onboard audio solution, 3rd party controlers for SATA and USB, you know things like that
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Yes, it will make a big difference, and your minimum framerates will go way up. PCIe 3.0 won't matter much if at all, but you'll gain some from having DDR3. The biggest difference, though, will be that a 4670K is significantly more powerful than a Q9550. The 9550 just isn't fast enough not to create a CPU bottleneck for your 670.
     
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While you will definitely see a performance increase with a new cpu, have you tried OC'ing the one you have? I had a Q9650 that I ran at 4 Ghz and that really helped feed my gpu at the time (a GTX480).
A new system, even at stock clocks, will outperform your Q9550.

Xbit labs gave the Gigabyte GA-z87x-d3h a great review. Another sub $130 mobo to consider.
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Yup, I did think to try OCing my current one.

I did run into a problem. Even with an aftermarket heatsink with a huge fan (something broke in the stock one) one of the four cores seems to go over 70 C more than I'd like it to (when stress testing). I heard that's about where you'd want to call it quits, so I decided it wasn't worth it. I can still play most of my favorite games like Team Fortress 2 on max settings with no big issues, so I'll probably be putting this off, but keeping it in mind.

tx-jose: I'm not sure I really need all those MB features. Overclocking has never really been my thing, and I haven't yet found a scenario where I'd really like to have SLI (normally, when I think to upgrade, I'd be going for a relatively cheap new card with 3x the speed, rather than almost-double the power of my current one)

Could you explain what you mean by 3rd party SATA/USB controllers though?
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Katana - I have found that the temps of the cores will vary, but if one is more than 10C higher than the rest it means my thermal paste needs to be applied better.
If you aren't into OC'ing or crossfire/SLI, then you definitely don't need the Z87 chipset. I would get a high quality mobo though and the fastest locked cpu you can afford.

A third party USB or SATA controller is on the mobo, not controlled by the cpu. For instance Marvell is a common motherboard Sata port controller.

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