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Ok lets start with the TV upgrade: http://spyder.datacolor.com/portfolio-view/spyder4tv-hd-upgrade/ Yep if you want to calibrate a TV that isn't set up with a HTPC then that is the upgrade you'll need. You use a laptop and the software and it walks you through the OSD menus to change the TV settings. It also comes with a bungie cord to hold the sensor to the screen as the normal hanging it over the monitor is rather difficult (did it today with my own, it is a pain if you don't use it)

Now for the differences between the Pro and Elte. If I remember all this correctly the 64 targets are the color panels that are displayed as the colorimeter is reading your screen. So it adjusts your ICC to match to those 64 test panels. I think it is something like 4 shades of different primary colors then greyscales, white points, and black levels.

Now the Elite offers preset tests and calibration points. The NTSC/PAL etc... are all predetermined standards for display characteristics. They may or may not be something you would prefer. Basically you tell it that you want to match the NTSC standard and it adjusts to that standard. As for the other functions they are just advanced options for tuning your display or color matching displays and/or prints etc...If you want any sort of specific information about them I'll be happy to try to answer.

Honestly I'd start with the Pro and the TV kit. Unless you already know you need the additional features they probably won't be worth it. If you find you do need them or even just want them then purchase the upgrade at a later time.

Better time schedule to recalibrate is every 3 months for normal work and the Spyder will remind you about it. I keep saying that anyone with multiple monitors a device like this is an absolute must. Anyone that hates sitting with panels and pushing the buttons to adjust the monitor will never go back after using a calibrator.

Great info / explanation to my questions. +1 REP Incoming. thumb.gif

Only problem I'll have for my TV's is I do not own a lap top. I guess I'll have to borrow one from a family member or bring the TV to my desktop PC if possible in order to calibrate.

I did read to lay monitors down and be in a completely dark room with no light source for best calibration. The bungee makes perfect sense as a 47" Flat panel isn't as easy to lay down. The Spyder 4 Pro sounds like the route I'll be taking with Spyder 4 TV HD Upgrade kit. Sounds easy enough even for first time calibrator.

Have you come across any guides online that show the steps / procedure? Would welcome the link. Again thank you. smile.gif
     
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Great info / explanation to my questions. +1 REP Incoming. thumb.gif

Only problem I'll have for my TV's is I do not own a lap top. I guess I'll have to borrow one from a family member or bring the TV to my desktop PC if possible in order to calibrate.

I did read to lay monitors down and be in a completely dark room with no light source for best calibration. The bungee makes perfect sense as a 47" Flat panel isn't as easy to lay down. The Spyder 4 Pro sounds like the route I'll be taking with Spyder 4 TV HD Upgrade kit. Sounds easy enough even for first time calibrator.

Have you come across any guides online that show the steps / procedure? Would welcome the link. Again thank you. smile.gif

No problem. I honestly don't think you'll find many guides. They are really simple to use, you just hang the spyder and click the mouse. It will tell you what to do as far as changing any settings. A laptop is a must even if you just borrow a laptop for a bit. Otherwise it wouldn't be any better or easier than just using those test dvds/blurays and you guessing what it should be. It isn't even a very resource heavy app so nearly anything will run it. I run around with netbook I got off of craigslist for $80 and change TVs for friends.

I also don't see a reason to lay a monitor down or do it in a dark room. To the contrary you want to do it in the the same conditions you'll be using the monitor. The Spyders at least have an ambient light sensor that will adjust the calibration based on that. I always set mine up however I normally will be using the system. So for my home office/media room all the lights are off and with the room darkening curtains closed. Now for my work office the lights are on, windows open, lab spot lights on, and everything else going on haha. It will adjust for the conditions.

If you were shooting for absolute colorimetric accuracy then there are reasons to use a darkroom with filtered light with determined intensity but this sensor and most consumer monitors and printers wouldn't even cut it. I doubt you see any sort of benefit from The idea of laying it down I believe comes from wanting uniform pressure across the LCD surface. Makes sense but not something normally done as you won't be looking at the LCD while it is laid down. On then higher end stuff I've used ($2000+ systems) none of that wasn't necessary either.
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Update:

I can confirm the Xrite i1Display Pro does support Windows 8 per Specifications.


Can anyone confirm or had opportunity to try both, that the Spyder 4 doesn't measure contrast and blacks as accurate over an Xrite iDisplay Pro?
     
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post #14 of 17
I'll just add that sometimes the same coloromiter/spectrometer is sold at a higher price as it comes with better software - using third-part software like argyllcms will mean you could use all the features at the lower price.
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Can anyone confirm or had opportunity to try both, that the Spyder 4 doesn't measure contrast and blacks as accurate over an Xrite iDisplay Pro?
IIRC, colourimeters measure black levels better than spectrometers - so the Spyder Pro should be better for measuring blacks. iDisplay Pro would be better for calibration though.
Edited by Moragg - 9/9/13 at 6:24am
post #15 of 17
If you visit the HDTV community - they generally are not fans of Spyder, most will often recommend the i1 Display Pro if you could only have one - but they would like to add the Colormunki as recommended above to get a fuller all around calibration. One is a colorimeter, the other is a spectrometer so i guess they compliment each other.

I think you can get i1 Display Pro for around $230 on eBay, same with Colormunki
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If you visit the HDTV community - they generally are not fans of Spyder, most will often recommend the i1 Display Pro if you could only have one - but they would like to add the Colormunki as recommended above to get a fuller all around calibration. One is a colorimeter, the other is a spectrometer so i guess they compliment each other.

I think you can get i1 Display Pro for around $230 on eBay, same with Colormunki

I thought it wasn't possible, Can the X-Rite i1 Display Pro calibrate HDTV's out of the box or does it need an add on like Spyder 4 Pro? Can the X-Rite i1 Display Pro also calibrate iPhones and iPads?
     
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post #17 of 17
i1 Display Pros can do HDTVs straight away (i dont think it needs any addons) - not sure about iPads/Tablets, but i dotn see why not.

Try highdefjunkes.com and avsforums for more help.
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