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What is the main difference between the AMD logical cores and Intel threads?
and which of these better at:
-games
-programming, 3D modeling, and so on
-Browsing the internet, watching movies and so on

and again the same question, but about the physical cores
post #2 of 6
amd shares resources and intel doesn't. most would say intel holds the market in best hyperthreading(logical cores) but others would say you can't really compare amd logical cores to intel hyperthreading...ph34r2.gif

I don't know any difference between physical cores other than how they are divided (back to hyperthreading) AMD of course holds market in # of cores, but IMO intel is just holding back. questions like these can easily turn into AMD vs Intel... but if you're wanting a unbiased opinion... don't look to me. Intel is better performing but is overpriced, AMD is almost cheap for what you get... just don't be surprised when it "falls apart".

in real world applications... Intel would be better for any one of those things, but AMD would be best with all of them! sneaky.gif
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Simply put, intel ipc is better than amd right now.
Therefore, intel is better at all the workloads you were asking.
To equal a 1ghz core of an intel cpu, an amd core will need almost double the clockspeed.
This is just an estimate to give you an idea.



The better question is which cpu is better at their price range:

$130 and below = FX4300/FX6300 will beat an i3 because they are unlocked and overclockable, while the i3 is locked
$150 to $190 = both brands are nearly equal, with the unlocked i5 having a slight lead in gaming and other low thread programs
$200 and above = intel i7 has no competition in this price range, the fx9590 is impractical
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Intel cores better than AMD cores, AMD cores better than Intel hyper-threads. Core for core Intel is much faster IPC but on the FX the 2nd half of a module has higher output than a I7 hyper-thread. IMO 4-6 threads Intel all the way, 7+ threads and the FX 8 core can be a contender.

Which is better can depend on the program you are using. Programming and rendering can fall to either. Gaming - Intel for old games tossup for new threaded games. Internet and movies can be done on phones and tablets and either processor will have no issues with that.

AMD = more fun to overclock and generally cheaper
Intel = Power savings and high IPC per core
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intel cores are only slightly better than amd, but intel cores are not twice as better as amd cores so 1 intel 4 core is not better than 1 amd 8 core

so, for dollar dollar match, intel i5 would have to be twice as good per core to match an 8350 but an i5 core is not twice as good as the 8350 core . smile.gif

simple hey
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amd shares resources and intel doesn't. most would say intel holds the market in best hyperthreading(logical cores) but others would say you can't really compare amd logical cores to intel hyperthreading...ph34r2.gif

I don't know any difference between physical cores other than how they are divided (back to hyperthreading) AMD of course holds market in # of cores, but IMO intel is just holding back. questions like these can easily turn into AMD vs Intel... but if you're wanting a unbiased opinion... don't look to me. Intel is better performing but is overpriced, AMD is almost cheap for what you get... just don't be surprised when it "falls apart".

in real world applications... Intel would be better for any one of those things, but AMD would be best with all of them! sneaky.gif
AMD processors are more durable than Intel, so they are less likely to "fall apart." They can take more voltage, run cooler, and overclock higher (stock clock speeds considered). Also Intel have been using TIM instead of solder to transfer heat from the die to heat spreader, so it is funny that people hold them in such a high respect for product quality. They may be faster due to advancement in technology, but that doesn't mean durability. In fact, the less advanced and more refined architecture is most of the reason they can take more abuse.
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