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Matrix value - 800 * 1.5, 800 * 2, 800 * 2.5, 800 * 3, 800 * 4, 800 * 5.
Isn't the ADNS-3090 a 900 pixel array? I can understand their reasoning for using 800 over 900.

I figure SteelSeries is just scaling the 800, 1600, 3200, 4000 SROM through their own coding. Logitech scales two settings for their old G400 version to cut down coding and level the performance. SteelSeries can be doing the same thing. This would make those in between steps perform like the next highest. This is what I have seen in most mice, maybe with the exception of Razer.
Edited by popups - 8/18/13 at 7:40pm
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Isn't the ADNS-3090 a 900 pixel array? I can understand their reasoning for using 800 over 900.

I figure SteelSeries is just scaling the 800, 1600, 3200, 4000 SROM only through their own coding. Logitech scales two setting for their version to cut down coding and level performance. SteelSeries can be doing the same thing. This would make those in between steps perform like the next highest. This is what I have seen in most mice, maybe with the exception of Razer.

Well, data allocation for this particular mouse is a bit awkward compared to typical solution. I'm just noting that those new values are in line with the sensor architecture itself tongue.gif Agilent had a max registry of 2000 not so long ago via ADNS-6010 (Based on the 3090 architecture)

Logitech is more in line with traditional scaling where the value closest to matrix scale (800) yields highest speed. Alternative 3600 CPI registry emulates a larger scale, ultimately reducing max IPS tracking as the size is 4* bigger. Halved values 400/1800 register identical max IPS vs native reg.

I have a Kone pure Optical here and estimated tracking performance on my Goliathus Speed goes as so. 800 DPI, 4.4m/s > 1200 DPI, 3m/s> 1600 DPI, 2.25m/s and so forth. Would indicate matrix enhancement outside MCU recalculation.

I don't know why the 800 value is choosen, but it seems common to compensate among many similar cmos architectures. PTE also increases a base 800 resolution via similar method ^^
Edited by Skylit - 8/18/13 at 10:57pm
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Well, data allocation for this particular mouse is a bit awkward compared to typical solution. I'm just noting that those new values are in line with the sensor itself tongue.gif

Logitech is more in line with traditional scaling where the value closest to matrix scale (800) yields highest speed. Alternative 3600 CPI registry emulates a larger scale, ultimately reducing max IPS tracking. Halved values 400/1800 register identical max IPS vs native reg.

I have a Kone pure Optical here and estimated tracking performance on my Goliathus Speed goes as so. 800 DPI, 4.4m/s > 1200 DPI, 3m/s> 1600 DPI, 2.25m/s and so forth. Would indicate matrix enhancement outside MCU recalculation.

I don't know why the 800 value is choosen, but it seems common to compensate among many similar cmos architectures. PTE also increases a base 800 resolution via similar method ^^
The only way I can make a solid guess is to get a v2 and mess around with it. From the look of things this mouse will perform very well. Could rival the DeathAdder 3.5G in my eyes. It is let down by the mold though.

I think the 800 value is chosen for customer head room and monitor resolutions. I think the 900 setting would be better to use.

From what I can tell, when you process a lot more counts via the MCU it hurts accuracy/malfunction speed. It requires very knowledgeable coders using the right MCU. Maybe why BST's 400 step is messed up.
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Quick steelseries question: Anyone know if you can program the mouse wheel to be reversed up and down from the steelseries drivers? I prefer the natural scrolling feel, for parity with my touch devices (phone/tablet). I can do this on my Deathadder but I can't on my FK.
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Updated - stock lift-off distance is around 0.45cm - yikes

No matter how great the mouse is in other departments, this alone makes the mouse unviable (at least for me).

Also I'd be very interested in how does an issue like that pass QC.
Edited by blainemono - 8/19/13 at 2:39am
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No matter how great the mouse is in other departments, this alone makes the mouse unviable (at least for me).

Also I'd be very interested in how does an issue like that pass QC.
It's not an issue, it by design. I use a blue or red mouse pad to lower it. I have some other ideas to try out when I get one that won't take away performance.
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It's almost a given that SteelSeries would find some way to make a huge flaw with the mouse. I am not sure if they do this stuff on purpose so people wait for the next edition,. They usually follow the same formula when the next generation mouse comes out, they still leave major flaws.

I also don't know how Fifflaren and Forest are finding this mouse for CS, its a low sens game where you pick up your mouse allot, I wonder how the high LOD affects them. The pro players should really force these companies to make the right adjustments before agreeing to use their gear.

By how much would a red mouse pad reduce the LOD? I think it would be bearable if the LOD dropped to at least 2.5 to 3 mm.
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I also don't know how Fifflaren and Forest are finding this mouse for CS, its a low sens game where you pick up your mouse allot.

Forest doesn't use kana v2 and he is a high sens player.
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Honestly i think i prefer a mouse with higher LOD. why? because there's some ways to "fix" it (Whether with some feet attached to the old ones, like DA for ex. or the tape fix).
Off topic:@ Skylit, does roccat kone pure optical have that weird positioning of the sensor, like savu had? sorry for off topic.

BTW where can we buy this mouse? is it on sale already? (i'm a palm gripper but as far as i can remember i wanted to try a mouse like this, had a kinzu some years ago and i loved it's shape)
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is this the white version?

the need to fix the color... imo
Edited by dstrk - 8/19/13 at 5:09am
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