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Hello all I could some input on this build I have planned for my father. He is set on AMD, I myself am a Intel fanboy and have a i5 3570k. He wants a red/black theme in a Air 540 Case. This is what I have picked out so far, It will be set to a medium OC. I just grabbed myself a set of Corsair Dominator for my rig so will be giving him my old 8gb 1866 Vengeance Red LP(4x2) which is why I'm only grabbing 2 more sticks of ram instead of 4. He may go crossfire in the future which is why I've listed the PSU with extra juice. All the prices are from amazon right now but will shop around for better ones when he gives me the cash next week. It will be used for listening to music/video watching & BF4 gaming (he is retired so will be in use very very often)

Do you think this will be good for what he needs?

Mouse - Razer Mamba $99
Keyboard - Corsair Vengeance K95 $139.99
PSU - Corsair AX860i $199.99
GPU - MSI Radeon 7970 3GB $378.63
CPU - AMD FX8350 $194.67
MB - Asus Crosshair V Formula $214.99
SSD(boot) - Samsung 840 120gb $90.99
HDD(Games & Storage) - 1TB WD Black $84.99 x2
Memory - Vengeance LP Black 16gb(8x2) 1866 $169.99
Case - Corsair Air540 $139.99
CPU Cooler - H100i $94.99

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NZXT Hue $28.19
NZXT Sentry 2 $19.99

Fans will be added in the future but plan on getting SP120's(Won't be picked up until next month so they are not included in the final price), He will also be using the Asus 1440p Monitor which he will purchase right before BF4 release.
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The fans I would go for are Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15 for the rad.

I would look at a better fan controller as the Sentry 2 isn't very good.

Instead of going for CrossFire in the future you could take advantage of the Radeon 7990 price slash before they sell out.

Are you putting the two HDDs in RAID? If not I would suggest saving money and buying a 2tb drive.
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For $2000 I'd definitely change some things up:

i7 4770K: $340
Asus Maximus VI Hero: $220
MSI GTX 780 Gaming Edition: $670
Rosewill Capstone 750W: $120

Stick with the 8Gb of memory you are giving him, and save yourself $170.

For gaming, this CPU/GPU will far outperform an 8350/7970.
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Why overpay for a half-mechanical monstrosity like the K95? There are dozens of far superior mechanical keyboards for cheaper. The K95 is pretty much a piece of trash.

Also the CM V850 is on sale for $109.99 after rebate and is equivalent to the AX860i in performance, so unless you just really love the Corsair Link software there's not much point to it.
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IF i had 2000$, this is what i would get with a black and red theme. The parts i picked are about 200$ higher than yours, BUT this PC would be At least 80% faster than the one you built tongue.gif. You picked some un-necessary expensive parts that do not make a difference (performance wise). And i replaced those parts and included SLI 770's. For 1440p, your dad would need more than a single 7970. You can replace the 770's with 7970's if you find any unlocked cheaper ones.

If i was your dad, i'll definitely go with something like this for 2000$.. LINK

CPU : Intel Core i7-3770K ... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i73770k) | $249.99 @ Microcenter
CPU Cooler : Corsair H100i ...http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i) | $94.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard : MSI Z77A-GD65 ... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z77agd65gaming) | $149.99 @ Newegg
Memory : G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 ... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f317000cl9d8gbsr) | $89.99 @ Newegg
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Video Card (1) : MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB ... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n770tf2gd5oc) (2-Way SLI) | $399.99 @ Amazon
Video Card (2) : MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB ... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n770tf2gd5oc) (2-Way SLI) | $399.99 @ Amazon
Case : Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case ... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc650dw1) | $159.99 @ Newegg
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IF i had 2000$, this is what i would get with a black and red theme. The parts i picked are about 200$ higher than yours, BUT this PC would be At least 80% faster than the one you built tongue.gif. You picked some un-necessary expensive parts that do not make a difference (performance wise). And i replaced those parts and included SLI 770's. For 1440p, your dad would need more than a single 7970. You can replace the 770's with 7970's if you find any unlocked cheaper ones.

If i was your dad, i'll definitely go with something like this for 2000$.. LINK

CPU : Intel Core i7-3770K ... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i73770k) | $249.99 @ Microcenter
CPU Cooler : Corsair H100i ...http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i) | $94.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard : MSI Z77A-GD65 ... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z77agd65gaming) | $149.99 @ Newegg
Memory : G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 ... http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f317000cl9d8gbsr) | $89.99 @ Newegg
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This doesn't look too bad other than the 770s. 2Gb of VRAM on a 256bit bus isn't ideal for 1440p. Maybe this, but with 7970s.
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IF i had 2000$, this is what i would get with a black and red theme. The parts i picked are about 200$ higher than yours, BUT this PC would be At least 80% faster than the one you built tongue.gif. You picked some un-necessary expensive parts that do not make a difference (performance wise). And i replaced those parts and included SLI 770's. For 1440p, your dad would need more than a single 7970. You can replace the 770's with 7970's if you find any unlocked cheaper ones.

If i was your dad, i'll definitely go with something like this for 2000$.. LINK

Proof please?
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Hello all I could some input on this build I have planned for my father. He is set on AMD, I myself am a Intel fanboy and have a i5 3570k. He wants a red/black theme in a Air 540 Case. This is what I have picked out so far, It will be set to a medium OC. I just grabbed myself a set of Corsair Dominator for my rig so will be giving him my old 8gb 1866 Vengeance Red LP(4x2) which is why I'm only grabbing 2 more sticks of ram instead of 4. He may go crossfire in the future which is why I've listed the PSU with extra juice. All the prices are from amazon right now but will shop around for better ones when he gives me the cash next week. It will be used for listening to music/video watching & BF4 gaming (he is retired so will be in use very very often)

Do you think this will be good for what he needs?

Mouse - Razer Mamba $99
Keyboard - Corsair Vengeance K95 $139.99
PSU - Corsair AX860i $199.99
GPU - MSI Radeon 7970 3GB $378.63
CPU - AMD FX8350 $194.67
MB - Asus Crosshair V Formula $214.99
SSD(boot) - Samsung 840 120gb $90.99
HDD(Games & Storage) - 1TB WD Black $84.99 x2
Memory - Vengeance LP Black 16gb(8x2) 1866 $169.99
Case - Corsair Air540 $139.99
CPU Cooler - H100i $94.99

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NZXT Sentry 2 $19.99

Fans will be added in the future but plan on getting SP120's(Won't be picked up until next month so they are not included in the final price), He will also be using the Asus 1440p Monitor which he will purchase right before BF4 release.

First off, at the $2000 build level, going AMD is just a flat out awful choice considering you do have the budget to put the best of the best (arguably) in his build. And considering this is a gaming build, Intel is going to just flat out offer him better performance. And it will fit in your budget. Your best choices in terms of CPU/Motherboard for the Red and Black theme are:

  • i7-3770K + MSI Z77-GD65 Gaming
  • i7-4770k + Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H

Both of which are very solid motherboards fitting your color scheme. However, keep in mind the GD65 Gaming isn't FULL matte black, and has a major tint of brown from all of the copper traces on the board. However, from a normal distance, its predominately black.


Second off, there is absolutely no need to spend such a ridiculous amount of money on such a mice. Also, wireless mice (whether advertised as gaming grade, or otherwise) will never offer the same performance in terms of responsiveness as a wired mouse. Pick a cheaper/better mouse in my opinion. And look away from Razer in terms of mice. Their coatings on their mice (rubberized coatings) are quite subpar and easily wear off. And their build quality is down the drain, especially for how much you pay for them.

Third off, the K95 is a piece of beautiful crap. It looks great, but it is DAMN expensive and its build quality is pretty bad compared to many other options. Look at the mechanical keyboard club/thread and do more research. Stuff like Filco, Ducky, etc. are a much better choice. And they generally cost less, while being extremely tough compared to the K95. Also, instead of honestly picking out a switch type for your father, let him actually TRY the different switch types at places like your local Frys, etc.. The K95 only comes with Cherry MX Red switches, and not everyone likes those.


Fourth off, don't pair two 4GB sticks with two 8GB sticks. You won't get dual channel memory, and you'll run into memory errors, etc from non-matching sticks. Its a pita. Either match the sticks in quantity/timings (i.e. another EXACT pair of the Dominators you are giving him), or just buy and use only the 2x8GB set (and 16GB is overkill for a gaming build honestly).


Fifth off, listen to Phaedrus's recommendation on PSUs. Corsair Link is a pain in the rear (its awful to work with, and still screws with your OS to this day). And the AX860i is just an overpriced hunk of metal compared to cheaper/same offerings such as the CM V850 that Phaedrus mentioned. You are basically paying for the brand and nothing else.


And finally, get something other than the H100i. It comes with the miserable Corsair Link software, and there are better options on the market over it in terms of performance. The Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme should be near the same price if not cheaper than it and will outperform the H100i while also having around the same noise footprint.


TL;DR: Don't buy things because of brand alone. Because that's what seems to be happening in this build.
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Proof please?

The GTX 770 is pretty much on par with the HD 7970. Having two of those would in essence (given perfect scaling) give a 100% increase. However, given normal, real-life scaling, 80% isn't that much off the mark in terms of a performance increase.
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Why overpay for a half-mechanical monstrosity like the K95? There are dozens of far superior mechanical keyboards for cheaper. The K95 is pretty much a piece of trash.

Also the CM V850 is on sale for $109.99 after rebate and is equivalent to the AX860i in performance, so unless you just really love the Corsair Link software there's not much point to it.

The K95 is full mechanical. I'm interested to hear why you think it is trash.
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The fans I would go for are Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15 for the rad.

I would look at a better fan controller as the Sentry 2 isn't very good.

Instead of going for CrossFire in the future you could take advantage of the Radeon 7990 price slash before they sell out.

Are you putting the two HDDs in RAID? If not I would suggest saving money and buying a 2tb drive.
I will look into a different video card and no raid here, one 1TB is for games only, the other 1TB is for his music/videos/pictures and documents. He often games with music on so the split on the hdd's would help prevent dual use on a single drive
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