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You may think you did but you didn't.
I can't justify what you think or thought... others seem to have gotten it though.

Good luck otherwise... points already made... moving on. smile.gif
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Thing I'm worried about will be when it's time to move off of Windows 7, this will happen all over again, only probably more so because Windows 7 will have a even larger user base by then just due to the expansion of computing devices that came along with the digital revolution since XP.

Current EOL for Windows 7 is 2020, and that's IF it doesn't get extended further like XP did.

Honestly small businesses can cry all they want, but replacing a cheap computer to continue support about every decade shouldn't be that hard. These people need to plan ahead better, in all honesty. How bad is $150 - $300 for each OEM every 10 years? $15-$30 per year... Please.

Complaints in that regard are just a shining example of how small bussiness gets too coddled in modern days. Not everyone is cut out to own their own.
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I see a ton of people asking "Why are people still using XP?" in one form or another.

I use XP, I have an ESXi server with ... let me log in and count... six Windows XP Pro vm's running on it, ranging from hosting a TradeWars2002 Game server, a TeamSpeak3 Server, my accounting server, among a few others.

Now that I've pointed out that i use it let me explain why, it's hardened, it's mature, there is a ton of documentation of any problem you could ever have related to the OS has already happened, been posted in a forum, and been resolved 100 times over. I know the OS inside and out, i can navigate the OS inside and out with my eyes closed. It works. Fantastic software support, fantastic driver support. Have i mentioned it just works? It's resource requirements are relatively low, I mean my accounting server VM has 1GB ram reserved for it, My Teamspeak3 has 1GB ram reserved for it, My TradeWars2002 Server has 768mb ram reservation, and my other three are 256mb ram each. For the applications I'm running XP is fantastic, i don't have to deal with the overhead of Windows 7 as compared to XP. I know a lot of you will disagree with me, but this works for me, therefore it's right for me. I already have the licensing for these XP VM's and it saves me from having to shell out ~$100 for each new Windows 7 COA, costing me $600 before i even account for an ounce of time to do the migration and redeployment.

So i respect your objections to using and OS that was originally released in 2001, but honestly I don't care because this fits and meets all of my needs.
 
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I'll probably be saying the same thing(s) about Windows 7 in 5 years.
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But then what about the people with old laptops, that can only run XP?
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Current EOL for Windows 7 is 2020, and that's IF it doesn't get extended further like XP did.

Honestly small businesses can cry all they want, but replacing a cheap computer to continue support about every decade shouldn't be that hard. These people need to plan ahead better, in all honesty. How bad is $150 - $300 for each OEM every 10 years? $15-$30 per year... Please.

Complaints in that regard are just a shining example of how small bussiness gets too coddled in modern days. Not everyone is cut out to own their own.

I see you know nothing about small business budgets. A medium to large size company can afford to budget in replacement systems, but small companies (100 people or less) run on much tighter cash flows in most cases. Especially the last decade. I am not sure what you mean by being coddled. The cost to upgrade is much more than just a new OS license. Se my post on the infrastructure issues earlier.

That being said, I do agree that nobody has any room to complain given the time they have had to react. My company will probably push it to the edge and then just keep a good firewall running to prevent most issues while we upgrade all the servers first. Now if we could just keep everyone from clicking on every silly attachment they see.
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But then what about the people with old laptops, that can only run XP?

how about those people who have gtx 280 and can't run modern games? how about those people who doesn't have a computer? how about those poor folks?

software may last forever but support can't. you can keep using xp with risks or upgrade, your choice.
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how about those people who have gtx 280 and can't run modern games? how about those people who doesn't have a computer? how about those poor folks?

What about those of use with only a single 780 who have to turn AA down to 8x?
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I'll probably be saying the same thing(s) about Windows 7 in 5 years.

Absolutely.
 
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I see you know nothing about small business budgets. A medium to large size company can afford to budget in replacement systems, but small companies (100 people or less) run on much tighter cash flows in most cases. Especially the last decade. I am not sure what you mean by being coddled. The cost to upgrade is much more than just a new OS license. Se my post on the infrastructure issues earlier.

That being said, I do agree that nobody has any room to complain given the time they have had to react. My company will probably push it to the edge and then just keep a good firewall running to prevent most issues while we upgrade all the servers first. Now if we could just keep everyone from clicking on every silly attachment they see.

Heh, if you say so...sure.

Although I'm pretty sure if a company with 100 employees can't afford $3,500 a year in computers (If the PCs were $350 a pop, which is being more than generous), they are already in trouble.

Which is my point. The modern day sociological viewpoint in our society is that big business is bad, and small business is good. Corporations can break down, that's somewhat ok, but little companies shouldn't ever die. This ideology is part of what has led to the economical state we are in now. Every person that wanted to start their own company could, despite not having the aptitude to handle it. All because we want to be "fair".

Back to what I was saying in regards to the topic: A company that panics because their computers are 10 years old and losing support is already knee-deep in their own crap. They were warned, they didn't plan ahead, yet half the people on this very thread want to paint MS as the bad guy.

These people are so right, Microsoft should state their EOL when they release OS's, but don't. Microsoft should extend those EOLs when migration is slow, but don't.
Oh wait, they do.
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