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Depends on how much the tap out and PCB assembly costs.
using big dies for mid end cards isn't a good business idea unless you have them laying around already.
They did it with the 560 Ti 448 Core. It's a possibility, especially if the 9970 comes in on the heels of 780 performance. They'll need stronger cards to compete in the sub $600 price range.

Not buying the 28nm Maxwell rumor at all though.
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Looking good smile.gif
if nvidia was smart they'd just add more shaders

if they make the same mistake of fermi, it will be disaster... ati has been the only graphics card division that can do good on new tech... they have a decent QA process that doesn't rush their cards since the HD2000 days... they learned from their mistake; hopefully nvidia doesn't do the mistake the third time... seriously, just throw more cores to compete with AMD, don't release a premature arch just to compete.. :/
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I want to get a GTX 770, but not sure if I should hold out for newer AMD/Nvidia cards.
Someone help me? :O

wait, you own a 7870 oc? you'll be fine, maybe if you play bf4 you may need to turn down settings though.
post #104 of 108
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This is getting out of hand with all these rumors. Anyone with a solid performing card, just wait till 20nm either be it from AMD or NVIDIA, enough with the recycled 28nm from both camps. /Thread

I am a bit excited to see what happens with the launch of the next AMD series; even though I originally intended to wait until Maxwell before leaving my 7970 Crossfire. While I hope AMD gives Nvidia a run for the money with the new R-XX series, what sort of improvement can we see on 28nm really?

Yea, I think Maxwell at 20nm is the next step for me maybe, we should hopefully see some serious gains there.
    
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How probable is this? It just doesn't make sense to me that they would roll out the 700s so late just to have them bumped by the 800. One would figure the Kepler refresh would be given more than a half a year.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see Maxwell. Yet, if I had bought a 770 or 780 and this rumor turned true, I wouldn't be too happy.

Here's hoping NVidia puts some more VRAM on those things though.
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How probable is this? It just doesn't make sense to me that they would roll out the 700s so late just to have them bumped by the 800. One would figure the Kepler refresh would be given more than a half a year.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see Maxwell. Yet, if I had bought a 770 or 780 and this rumor turned true, I wouldn't be too happy.

Here's hoping NVidia puts some more VRAM on those things though.

It is more profitable for them to do it this way, and this is actually a concern of mine.

As the fabrication process matures, it becomes cheaper for them to create it. By staying with 28nm and just pushing another "new" card out, they can charge "new" card prices again! In the past as cards aged their pricing stepped down, less demand and the cost to produce the product lowered due to maturation.

They have figured out that if they keep the same process, mature it, but during that time make a few small tweaks and release it as a new product, they can get that full new card pricing on a mature platform. Increasing their profit margins per card. Why keep 28nm as the 600 or 700 series, or even 7000 series, and sell it under current gen names for the next year, and have to drop the price due to it getting "old"? They can just keep that same fabrication going and just call it "New super awesome card with more 1337!" and bump the price back up to ~$600.

Think about it, 28nm has been out now for a long while, it is mature, mature to the point they can make small tweaks to it to get a little more performance, and then sell it as the next line for full blown new tech pricing! You can buy a 7970 for just over $300 new right now! Wouldn't AMD love to sell 28nm for $600 new instead? Like wise for Nvidia..
    
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It's this kind of thing that worries me about buying 780s or 9970s. Guess i'll just await confirmation.
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There is not much point in another 28 nm release, unless you are nVidia or AMD and you are going to milk the process for a slight revision.
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