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we were referring to the PS3

Sorry I'm too much of an active member on OCN for your approval

Someone doesn't know their E3 quotes.
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Someone doesn't know their E3 quotes.

not sure what you're referring to, but let's focus less on me and more on the topic.
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not sure what you're referring to, but let's focus less on me and more on the topic.

Google isn't very hard to use.
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Google isn't very hard to use.

oh! lol sorry I thought you were telling me to get a job (as if twiddling my thumbs on OCN was my primary job)

I forgot about that.

Misunderstanding b.b
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Google isn't very hard to use.

lol guess we needed to know to use google to find a quote...
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Are you serious? Sony's had one of the greatest developers relation out of the three big console manufactures.

The only issue with Sony has been the propitiatory hardware they used in the PS~3 was harder to work with.

When did I mention anything about developer relations? I merely stated that they created two of the most difficult to develop for consoles consoles with not a single developer in mind. Both the PS2 and PS3 were purposely made difficult to develop for buy their design choices. Saying it was "harder to work with" is massively understating the SPE's and the slapped on last minute modified (and underpowered) 7800GT difficulty curve.

I quite frankly don't know what Sony would've done without Kojima actually showing people what you could do with the consoles with his games. ZoE2 is still a marvel to look at and a technical marvel when you consider the games that it shared a platform with.


But yeah, Sony for the better part of a decade has been as anti developer as they possibly could've been with their design choices for massive power only attainable with massive (and unrealistic) work.



Man I love the old ZoE2 Trailer..........
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Edited by Junkboy - 8/22/13 at 8:44am
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Does this change anything

Xbox One To Have A Similar Solution to huMA – Xbox One Dev

Its similar but not as good (form what I have heard) to put it simply. The XBO's has slower hardware and it will be harder to get the most out of that hardware due to it being a more complicated setup with its DDR3/eDRAM combo. Also the PS4's GPU was specifically modified to provide better compute performance then the 7870'esk chip it was based on. I have not heard anything about the XBO's GPU having similar modifications.

PS4 GPU compute enhancements
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  • An additional bus has been grafted to the GPU, providing a direct link to system memory that bypasses the GPU's caches. This dedicated bus offers "almost 20GB/s" of bandwidth, according to Cerny.
  • The GPU's L2 cache has been enhanced to better support simultaneous use by graphics and compute workloads. Compute-related cache lines are marked as "volatile" and can be written or invalidated selectively.
  • The number of "sources" for GPU compute commands has been increased dramatically. The GCN architecture supports one graphics source and two compute sources, according to Cerny, but the PS4 boosts the number of compute command sources to 64.


Source --> http://techreport.com/news/24725/ps4-architect-discusses-console-custom-amd-processor
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I'm currently anticipating the Xbox One over the PS4 now, but where's the fanboyism in that or my comments? Xbox One fits my needs, PS4 doesn't. So with that in mind, I try to keep my comments pretty well thought out and explain my position (and counter when I need to)

xbox one thread=damage control thread

ps4 thread=xbox one damage control thread

yay i have a new sig. lol
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you're just talking about first party exclusives. Games are meant for gamers, but they're also meant to make somebody money. 3-4 year development cycles don't scream "money bags" to publishers.

It's great that exclusives can take advantage of that, but that's with 40+ million dollar budgets and being backed by Sony themselves. Certainly not the "norm"

most people on this site are gamers. we want quality games, not crappy rushed ac-style sequels. you make comments like this and then wonder why people don't take you seriously.

so i guess i should buy a xb1 if i want a console designed to screw me over in favor of devs? good to know
Edited by perfectblade - 8/22/13 at 8:56am
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xbox one thread=damage control thread

ps4 thread=xbox one damage control thread

yay i have a new sig. lol

while you may see it that way, I think some of us here are actually having some active and interesting discussions about the technology and the platforms themselves.

If you just want to drop a "xbox sucks derp" comment, just unplug your keyboard.
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while you may see it that way, I think some of us here are actually having some active and interesting discussions about the technology and the platforms themselves.

active and intelligent conversation=dogmatically trying to minimize the downsides of the xb1 design choices, most likely due to your own financial interests? ok thumb.gif
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