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most people on this site are gamers. we want quality games, not crappy rushed ac-style sequels. you make comments like this and then wonder why people don't take you seriously.

Understand the difference between Devs spending too much time developing tools, and spending time perfecting the game -_-

If a Dev can use a familiar tool set and focus on creating great games every 2 years, that's great for gamers.

If the Dev's have to be blindfolded at every turn and recreate every little thing for the first year...they'd either have to extend the development cycle or rush through their game-creation to make deadlines

I don't need to sit here and wonder how I can please you. I'd rather submit my ideas and encourage an insightful discussion.
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active and intelligent conversation=dogmatically trying to minimize the downsides of the xb1 design choices, most likely due to your own financial interests? ok thumb.gif

Nope, no stock in MS.

I just don't measure my enjoyment of a console by how many GFLOPS it can produce on a piece of paper.
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Yup.
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xbox one thread=damage control thread

ps4 thread=xbox one damage control thread

Most people are intelligent enough not to bash aimlessly. It's not "damage control," it's discourse. You're welcome to see it any way you want of course, it doesn't bother anyone if you're wearing 3inch PS3 tinted glasses.
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most people on this site are gamers. we want quality games, not crappy rushed ac-style sequels. you make comments like this and then wonder why people don't take you seriously.

so i guess i should buy a xb1 if i want a console designed to screw me over in favor of devs? good to know

Both the X1 and PS4 were made to generate money for the next decade. They're both meant to screw you over. So really, who's the one making dumb comments? You really think the PS4 is designed with you in mind? Why don't they make games free and subsidized out of Sony's pocket? Like I've said before, brand hate is the other side of brand loyalty. Both are just as stupid.
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So, in the end... the cycle continues. Everyone's living room will have some 6-10 consoles in another decade since they refuse to make any of them backwards compatible. Yes, yes... the PS4 is just too flimsy to handle a PS2 game because of emulation bla bla... maybe, MAYBE they should stop emulation and write a conversion engine so the PS5 or 12 can actually be backwards compatible again. I almost bought a PS3 until they even made the 1st gens unable to be backwards compatible due to a firmware update. Screw... that. Why buy PS4 when i can't play the PS3 games I wanted... much less the PS2/1 games I loved and grew up on?
Thankfully, my PC emulates them all just fine biggrin.gif

never happened
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I just don't measure my enjoyment of a console by how many GFLOPS it can produce on a piece of paper.

What's better then?
OS and controller have been improved for the PS4, so besides the exclusives I don't see what's better in the Xbox One. And even then the PS4 has hardware advantages which means it will probably run cooler or have added effects/textures compared to the Xbox.
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When did I mention anything about developer relations? I merely stated that they created two of the most difficult to develop for consoles consoles with not a single developer in mind. Both the PS2 and PS3 were purposely made difficult to develop for buy their design choices. Saying it was "harder to work with" is massively understating the SPE's and the slapped on last minute modified (and underpowered) 7800GT difficulty curve.

I quite frankly don't know what Sony would've done without Kojima actually showing people what you could do with the consoles with his games. ZoE2 is still a marvel to look at and a technical marvel when you consider the games that it shared a platform with.


But yeah, Sony for the better part of a decade has been as anti developer as they possibly could've been with their design choices for massive power only attainable with massive (and unrealistic) work.



Man I love the old ZoE2 Trailer..........
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

But there's a reason why Consoles have been this way. Proprietary hardware to combat piracy and to be unique. Its broken down and everything is moot at this point.
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reminds me of Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



EXACTLY! 90% of the "Game changing" tech is either bull or takes generations of hardware refreshes to actually make a huge difference. Not that hUMA isn't and awesome idea, but I really doubt its going to be devastating to the xbox
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Well, as long as both are x64 systems, I could care less which is more powerful. I just want better games for my PC, and it's time that jump was made.
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What's better then?
OS and controller have been improved for the PS4, so besides the exclusives I don't see what's better in the Xbox One. And even then the PS4 has hardware advantages which means it will probably run cooler or have added effects/textures compared to the Xbox.
let it have better textures or effects, that's not going to detour me from enjoying a console.

Ps4 having better hardware doesn't infer the xbox one hardware is crap. Not like we're looking at a super computer vs an intel atom..

Also, the xbox one is an improvement from the xbox 360 in every way, including, and almost just as important, it's entire software ecosystem.

Its also just possible that some people may actually prefer xbox exclusives to playstations... can't really argue somebody's taste in games.

Hell, silicon Knights game, Too Human, got crapped on by the Internet. To me, it was dry summer and I picked it up. I enjoyed every nook and cranny of that game. Didn't need the opinions of others to decide my thoughts.
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