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It is nearly impossible for any commercial product sold in the US that does remotely what Win8 do, to be more secure vs. the NSA.
Would love to see the alternatives "enforced" by the German Goverment...pointing the obvious issues that are known for...well, way before Win8, and then pushing utopic statements and non-solutions is useless.
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Linux isn't an OS, or a company, it's just a kernel.

besides, the user has much much much more control over their machine with GNU/Linux than anyone else would with Windows.

If you wonder why any linux based os will never be popular it is this comment right there.
You are so hungry to correct someone that you completely miss the point of the sentence. Instead of helping make the world a better place, your inner control freak has to come out and say "you are wrong!!!".

We see this in other places in linux. "if you can not use terminal, you do not deserve to use linux." "if you don't know how to write basic scripts, you do not deserve to use this os".

All of those comment make a huge leap in logic that makes you smarter then someone else and offering something that is completely useless, and worst completely wrong, is what will always make linux something only for computer geeks. Anyone that does not meet the basic geek knowledge base will be subject to geek scorn and taunting.

Now I got that rant out of the way. I am going to prove you wrong.

Who gets to decide what linux is? Well the people who actually created it. What do they have to say?

Well

https://www.linux.com/learn/new-user-guides/376-linux-is-everywhere-an-overview-of-the-linux-operating-system

"What is Linux? Linux is, in simplest terms, an operating system. It is the software on a computer that enables applications and the computer operator to access the devices on the computer to perform desired functions."

Now continue reading, notice that your magical word kernel only appears twice in the whole definition?

"Over 1,000 developers, from at least 100 different companies, contribute to every kernel release. In the past two years alone, over 3,200 developers from 200 companies have contributed to the kernel--which is just one small piece of a Linux distribution."

Notice the that the kernel...is just one SMALL piece of a linux distribution. Not the whole thing, not a large part, not one half, but just a small part.
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It is nearly impossible for any commercial product sold in the US that does remotely what Win8 do, to be more secure vs. the NSA.
Would love to see the alternatives "enforced" by the German Goverment...pointing the obvious issues that are known for...well, way before Win8, and then pushing utopic statements and non-solutions is useless.

I have to ask, what does wins 8 does that ubuntu does not?

The conversation is not about security, it is about makers of the os installing an backdoor into the os for the nsa. Not saying that any linux distro could not do the same thing, but there is simply no one to hide the fact in the linux distro.
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I have to ask, what does wins 8 does that ubuntu does not?

Has programs written for it.

Not even joking, programs are the reason.
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This !

Besides I live outside the US so I give 0 ducks about what the NSA does or thinks or can dare to do to me. I have no internet restrictions, no controls, no nothing here. Sometimes I think that the living hell of Latin America has some advantages over more "advanced" countries... Shame our governments are realizing this and started to manipulate and control bit by bit...

You should give some ducks about what the NSA is doing. There is no protection from the NSA for people living outside of the US. Our constitution is supposed to protect our citizens from this sort of eavesdropping, but apparently that has failed as well. If you connect to the internet, chances are your traffic is going through at least one server located physically in the US even if you are only accessing local servers.

Cell phones and land lines are just as easy.

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I have to ask, what does wins 8 does that ubuntu does not?

Runs some fantastic games?
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