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I decided on all the pieces for my new build a few days ago, two of which would be Alphacool UT60 480mm's that I'd be putting in P/P using Corsair SP120 Quiet's at the top and bottom of a 900D. I'd had the listing for them on FrozenCPU open since the previous day and it showed four left in stock. After refreshing the page, they were gone. This lead me to an international Google hunt; every American, Canadian, European, and Australian supplier I could find had nothing (Not that I was really willing to pay for international shipping but I thought it was odd). Yesterday I asked FrozenCPU and Performance-PCs when their ETA was, and I received these responses:
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Sorry not anytime soon. They have so stock over there and so will be a few weeks.

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Customer Service
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Originally Posted by FrozenCPU 
It is going to be quite some time for these to return. (Late Oct. / early Nov) The manufacturer made an entire line of UT60 quads but made Phobya 480 Version 2s accidentally. The phobya V2 and UT60 are the same radiator, only difference is the number of ports. Internal construction is the same.

UT60 has 6
Phobya has 4

Here is the Phobya 480 version 2, I do have some stock but they are packed in an Alphacool box currently. Phobya boxes are in the mail.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21232/ex-rad-642/

Matthew Buckner

Which leads me to a few questions.

1) If I were to go with XT45's instead, would I even see a performance difference vs UT60's? I know that Martin's says that the XT45's performance difference is negligible at and below 1400RPM which is what the SP120's run at, but I'll be running them in P/P.

2) Is the Phobya actually an outright knockoff of the UT60? Anyone know of the performance numbers between the two? I couldn't find anything on Google.
    
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So I'm really doubting the Phobya performs as well as the UT60. According to Martin's Liquid Lab, the V2 he tested actually came out with considerably lower performance numbers (As shown here) than the UT60. I wasn't sure if it was the same Phobya as he describes it as having brass chambers, but I've found a few instances of the new copper chambers arriving in boxes that claim brass and how to identify them, one such here. So it seems Martin did review the full copper rad, but was accidentally mislead into believing it had brass chambers.

The only discrepancy I can think of could be the possibility that the full copper Phobya is actually newer than the initial V2, as Martin's review is from April 2012 and all relevant information I can find on the full coppers (Which is scarce - somewhat disconcerting) seems to be from mid 2013.
    
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I have got Phobya G-Changer V2 360mm Triple Radiator V2 Full Copper and Phobya G-Changer V2 480mm Quad Radiator : G-Changer 480 V2 Full Copper and they are both full copper the way to tell is if they have a sticker instead of the imprint of the logo,to me looking at them theY look the same as the Alphacool apart from 2 less ports.
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Exactly, which leads me to believe that Martin did review a full copper as his pictures show the rad having a sticker, and was mislead to believe it had brass chambers due to old packaging.
    
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Anyone have any insight into the difference between the XT45 and UT60 in push/pull?
    
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