Originally Posted by Masked
I was actually with Alienware when the 590 dropped and had been a premier sample tester for that card because we were going to push it for 3 new launches. The VRM hardware on the card was, the best you could buy -- The delivery of that power WAS pathetic, nobody is arguing against that. The point still remains that, that 590 packed a serious punch for what it was. The form factor was fantastic, the draw was within the bounds of reason, the heat index was off the charts BUT, again not as bad as SLI. These were GOOD cards.
Which, du nu nu naaaa, you COMPLETELY missed my point. ~ My point in stating that 590's are in Iraq is that they are capable of surviving a harsher environment than a standard card. Why? 1 intake = less pressure = less sand running through the build.
DRIVER limitations were placed on the entire 5 series because it was eventually realized that while the VRM's were up to par, the rest of the card really, wasn't. -- BTW, why are we even discussing the 570's when the 590 was 2 cherry picked 580 cores? Anyone? Anyone? <~ Me neither.
The 6990 was meant for water -- that's why they pushed it so hard and had blocks ready on day 1, minute 1 of launch...BECAUSE IT WAS SO HOT. They prepared for that buy making the means to cool the card, instantly available. ~ AMD doesn't sell proprietary waterblocks, only have for limited releases...Maybe they should pop Swiftech into their pockets like EVGA?
The 590 wasn't actually downclocked...I don't understand the misconception that surrounds dual cards being "downclocked". The purpose of a dual core card is that you essentially have "twice" the performance in the same package...That doesn't mean it will be 2.0, it means, you get significantly more processing power in a single PCI-E slot which, is what it always has been...Ultimately, since the 295's, it's very clear that, you get what you get regardless of the card's price-point. It is your OPINION, that the card wasn't performing as well as it could have and while I agree, the entire series in itself, was crippled by driver-driven OCP and just a horrific power management system in itself.
About 1.5 -- I was making an example. Many people purchase the card thinking they can get 2.5-3 performance...Look at the 590 thread, the 690 thread -- Examples are MANY of those whom believe they should be able to overclock that card like single gpu's...News flash, it's just not happening.
The bottom line is simple. Due to vendor stupidity, the dual core cards have taken a bad wrap. That doesn't mean they're bad cards. It means that due to the stupidity of a few, rumors and misinformation spread like a plague and created a false dichotomy surrounding this card - Those that are informed and those that aren't.
Most of "those that aren't" believe this card just blows up randomly at 1.2v -- That's FALSE. I had my card parked at 1.18v, edited the drivers and continually kept that card at 1.18v for the duration of it's life in my possession -- Not a singular issue. Know of many that kept/have their card at 1.2 24/7...It's very possible.
Those that HAVE this card and are informed, know about the 1.2 rule, you're edging the line of the entire VRM structure going bust so, you don't go 1.2..You go 1.19, 1.18, 1.15 so forth and overclock the card, that way on custom drivers.
Again, the only negativity towards dual-cored cards are due to false rumors and speculation that resulted due to the stupidity of several vendors...Nothing more, nothing less. They are good cards and are extremely worth-while for most people actually using work-related PC's. Period.