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I'm going to be buying a Seagate 1TB SSHD (Hybrid SSD) soon and was wondering what you all think of them? My current setup is a standard 128GB SSD and a 750GB Hitachi Desktar (Mechanical drive pulled from an old HP).

At the moment, I use the SSD as my boot drive with applications installed on it. I use the 750GB drive for movie storage and gaming.

Could I further cache the Hybrid with my 128GB SSD to make it a bit snappier?

My plan is to get the Hybrid, some how cache it further with my existing SSD and use the 750GB as a backup drive since I doubt I'd ever go over 750GB in storage but getting the 1TB as you never know!

Basically it boils down to.... I want a large capacity but fast setup.

Thanks for all your help and suggestions in advance!
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I can't help you with your question. I noticed that the Seagate ST2000DX001 is in stock at newegg as of today! I've been waiting for the ST1000DX001 to show up for quite some time.
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Unfortunately, the CacheBox has not yet hit the market. This is their official site, but nothing is to be found there. I'd definitely pick one up with a WD Black, and I suspect they work with hybrid drives in the HDD slot. However, you already have an SSD. Why do you need a hybrid drive?
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If anything, assuming it worked at all, caching the SSD with the SSHD would slow it down or do nothing. An SSHD, while speedier than a HDD, will have nowhere near the performance of an SSD. For just storage, a SSHD will not give much of a performance increase, if any at all. You would be better off getting a HDD with a proven track record instead of the unproven Seagate ST2000DX001.

This is not a blanket condemnation of SSHDs. They are a compromise of the speed of a SSD and the storage capacity of a HDD without the cost of the SSD. They are most useful in lower end notebooks and laptops that have room for only one drive. I recently installed one in my Lenovo G570 that has room for only one drive. I needed the 500GB capacity the original HDD has but just couldn't justify spending considerably more for an SSD than I spent on the computer itself. Even 250-256GB would have been too expensive for that machine (kind of like putting a Mercedes engine in a Rambler). The SSHD I put in the notebook was a happy compromise of speed and cost.
   
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What would you guys suggest a cost effective upgrade would be from my current setup?

Current: 128GB Zeppelin SSD, 750GB Hitachi Deskstar.

I cannot afford a large SSD so need something hopefully with the same kind of speed.

Thanks.
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What would you guys suggest a cost effective upgrade would be from my current setup?

Current: 128GB Zeppelin SSD, 750GB Hitachi Deskstar.

I cannot afford a large SSD so need something hopefully with the same kind of speed.

Thanks.

It depends what you want improved. If you just need more data storage, I would suggest a 2 TB Western Digital Black. It has a five year warranty and gets good reviews.

I've never heard of a Zeppelin SSD so I can't really comment on it. If you were wanting to replace it, I would suggest a 128GB or larger Samsung 840 Pro. I used to suggest the Samsung 840 (not the same as the 840 Pro) has a budget oriented replacement for the 840 Pro because it had been getting reviews as good as the Pros but, recently, premature failures have started showing up. The new Samsung 840 EVOs look promising and have been getting good speeds but it uses the same storage technology (TLC) as the 840s (the Pros use MLC, which has a better and longer track record) so I don't advise getting the EVOs for a while unless you are the kind that likes to have up to the moment technology and don't mind the risk.

Keep in mind that all an SSD will do is speed up boot time and will speed up program loading as long as the program is installed on the SSD. SSDs will not make a computer run faster although file access speed might improve a bit. Your Zeppelin may or may not run noticeably slower than the newer SSDs. If it's running alright, I would suggest leaving it alone unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket.

8GB RAM should be plenty for all but a handful of the most intense games. If you find your games slowing down dramatically every now and then (which may be caused by going into virtual memory), it's possible you may need more RAM. 16GB is definitely the top end for gaming but the vast majority of people do just fine with 8GB. If you decide to upgrade your RAM, be sure to buy a 16GB kit of matched modules. It's not a good idea to mix RAM.

Since you have a separate SSD, an SSHD (hybrid SSD) will not benefit you at all. If you replace your SSD with one, it will actually slow you down.
Edited by Lady Fitzgerald - 8/25/13 at 1:09pm
   
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