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Why is it any good? Surely to make money a HDD company should try sell each person on earth a HDD vs a company with a load of HDD's. As a business model it seems restrictive.

Wouldn't it be better to focus on selling cheap pickup from the super market easy to use endpoint SFF servers with a few discs and allowing for better remote access to andriod / apple for your content needs?
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Why is it any good? Surely to make money a HDD company should try sell each person on earth a HDD vs a company with a load of HDD's. As a business model it seems restrictive.

Wouldn't it be better to focus on selling cheap pickup from the super market easy to use endpoint SFF servers with a few discs and allowing for better remote access to andriod / apple for your content needs?

From a business standpoint its generally not the same companies making HDD's and offering cloud storage. So there is no opportunity cost. The company selling HDD's isnt going to turn down a sale in the thousands of units. The company supplying cloud storage isnt going to invest into the equipment and R&D to compete in the HDD manufacturing segment.

Not sure what you mean in your second paragraph, but the consumer interest in cloud storage is that items are backed up, without the upfront cost of storage, and it is accessible anywhere, at a reasonable speed. Cloud providers can add features that may be above the knowledge or capabilities of its customers.

As an example i have my documents and pictures automatically sync simultaneously to drive/skydrive/dropbox/box automatically. I dont have to do a thing after setting that up. When i rebuild my computer or need to recover a file i have 4 copies of all that content in 4 different places and it costs me $0. To accomplish this with my own storage itd be more time consuming and costly.
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Originally Posted by phill1978 View Post

Why is it any good? Surely to make money a HDD company should try sell each person on earth a HDD vs a company with a load of HDD's. As a business model it seems restrictive.

Wouldn't it be better to focus on selling cheap pickup from the super market easy to use endpoint SFF servers with a few discs and allowing for better remote access to andriod / apple for your content needs?


When you buy a HDD... you generally use a portion of it and fill it over time. Until you fill it, that unused part is an economic loss to you. Furthermore, a single HDD is a single point of failure. In addition, most consumers are NOT technically savvy and not all the ones that are want to spend the time configuring systems.

I pay $6/month for unlimited cloud disk space for backups on ClashPlan. I'm working on moving a few TBs....with versioning.


From a business perspective, "cloud computing" is not that different from "mainframe computing" which is a successor of "time-sharing computing". What cloud computing allows is for on-demand resources and abstraction of the hardware. You can spin up a project quickly, expand the computing resources, and then spin it down quickly. If you had to buy your own servers, you are looking at MUCH higher initial capital outlay, limited scaling, and the cost of system admin and architects.
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As an example i have my documents and pictures automatically sync simultaneously to drive/skydrive/dropbox/box automatically. I dont have to do a thing after setting that up. When i rebuild my computer or need to recover a file i have 4 copies of all that content in 4 different places and it costs me $0. To accomplish this with my own storage itd be more time consuming and costly.

but the fact you need 4 x boxes to contain your stuff is telling that you don't pay anything for cloud storage so your amounts must be less as typically the business model is to sell you their storage for more money. Over time it has to be cheaper for them to make from you than it is for them to buy the hardware instead of you.. so forgetting your example of what you do a typical storage provider will charge $5 - $10 -$ 20 + etc.. a month for a whole lifetime (insert 30 - 40 years of payments here) of storage which you quite possibly wont need.. thats more than a few HDD's and a sync to family HDD on another site for resiliency?

Furthermore is your data safe from prying eyes? like hell it is. The whole point from a consumer perspective is to look at a picture or listen to some music on a phone / ipad etc.. remotely but why not just put that on some local storage like an SD card and plug your device in on a night or sync via wifi to the device at home? unless your doing a big sharing of your home(read cloud) files to everyone then the like-hood of needing different files to that have been sync'd on your home network vs the cloud on a daily basis is very slim. Even if your desperate to share an image / file there are many apps that can do this, one of which is facebook/skype/email/SMS/ etc..

Its like Google music, you don't actually listen to your own data-music when you play it, its a version of that song, their version.
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but the fact you need 4 x boxes to contain your stuff is telling that you don't pay anything for cloud storage so your amounts must be less as typically the business model is to sell you their storage for more money. Over time it has to be cheaper for them to make from you than it is for them to buy the hardware instead of you.. so forgetting your example of what you do a typical storage provider will charge $5 - $10 -$ 20 + etc.. a month for a whole lifetime (insert 30 - 40 years of payments here) of storage which you quite possibly wont need.. thats more than a few HDD's and a sync to family HDD on another site for resiliency?

Furthermore is your data safe from prying eyes? like hell it is. The whole point from a consumer perspective is to look at a picture or listen to some music on a phone / ipad etc.. remotely but why not just put that on some local storage like an SD card and plug your device in on a night or sync via wifi to the device at home? unless your doing a big sharing of your home(read cloud) files to everyone then the like-hood of needing different files to that have been sync'd on your home network vs the cloud on a daily basis is very slim. Even if your desperate to share an image / file there are many apps that can do this, one of which is facebook/skype/email/SMS/ etc..

Its like Google music, you don't actually listen to your own data-music when you play it, its a version of that song, their version.

Privacy is a valid point...nothing i have upload is private enough for me to care if someone looks at it. Thats a matter of preference. "You" trust your ISP not to read your traffic or connect into your computer too.

The whole point of cloud storage is not having files on multiple devices, thats a small part of it. You have 2 people in this thread so far using it as backup.

Your point about storage space locally vs cost and size of cloud isnt valid either. As HDD's grow in size due to the demand for storing larger files, so will the amount of storage for cloud computing and the price per/GB will drop with that. So what someone gets now for $10/month will be 10x larger for the same price in a few years. Your HDD's do NOT grow in space over time requiring further investment in larger HDD's.

As for syncing...have you ever tried to maintain a documents version across 2 computer? Its a nightmare. You either have to use portable media or make sure that every little change you make on one device is saved and transported manually to another. You also have to know ahead of time you need to take it with you. Its much easier to start a file on my computer or whatever device and have access to that exact same file from any device anywhere without any extra effort on my part to sync them. Especially if i dont expect to need it.

As for what i backup, its basically documents and pictures, totaling about 15GB's. Box is 50GB free, skydrive was 25GB free when i got it, dropbox is idk like 20GB or something after getting others to sign up and such and my google drive is standard size and pictures goto picasa now G+. I dont have a need to backup anything else file wise remotely. Any music/videos i have i can get again, i keep those locally backed up.

Cloud storage circumvents alot of the problems that can occur when backing up yourself. Drive failure, fire/water dmg, storing offsite,access.
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