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Two new Ivy-E reviews:-

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_4960x_processor_review,1.html

http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/luke-hill/intel-core-i7-4960x-ee-cpu-asus-x79-deluxe-motherboard-review/

Both saying much the same and agreeing with the findings on this thread too. Interestingly they both were only able to OC the 4960X to 4.6 MHz!!!

ToT review with more game benchmarks:-

http://www.techoftomorrow.com/2013/pc/intel-ivy-bridge-e-i7-4960x-cpu-review-benchmarks/

Enjoy!!! wink.gif

So disappointing, yet so predictably Intel. If this trend is to continue, Haswell will offer little but two extra cores, faster memory and another 5% core performance improvement... if we're lucky.

Intel alone has done plenty on its own to help kill the desktop market with these incremental updates.
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So disappointing, yet so predictably Intel. If this trend is to continue, Haswell will offer little but two extra cores, faster memory and another 5% core performance improvement... if we're lucky.

Intel alone has done plenty on its own to help kill the desktop market with these incremental updates.
Intel can't manufacture Graphene CPUs, and when there would be Graphene CPUs, they would need to get into trust corporation with AMD and ARM and other manufacturers to keep expected exponential growth which is in favor of user/customer.

CPUs and other stuff were protected from jumps in price and horrible overpricing by general expectation of exponential growth, thus merchants were not able to speculate and keep too high numbers of components in stores. Get it out, turn minor profit, and work one new things which would be outdated under 5 years after release.

Graphene CPUs would outdate all previous CPUs by factor of 30. But aside of 1. either costing premium or 2. immediately massively outdate all previous PC and Tablets. They will not create exponential growth because of all previous infrastructure and experience from previous silicon CPUs would be already here and would allow immediate nearly optimal design of Graphene, or optical, CPUs.
Without some kind of legal trust made by companies who are definitely more interested in long continuous guaranteed small income over becoming really rich fast in short term (and then what would they do?), it would be extremely hard to create affordable cheap and extremely powerful PC usable as dual class for both home work/entertainment and corporation level of stuff.
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Intel can't manufacture Graphene CPUs, and when there would be Graphene CPUs, they would need to get into trust corporation with AMD and ARM and other manufacturers to keep expected exponential growth which is in favor of user/customer.

CPUs and other stuff were protected from jumps in price and horrible overpricing by general expectation of exponential growth, thus merchants were not able to speculate and keep too high numbers of components in stores. Get it out, turn minor profit, and work one new things which would be outdated under 5 years after release.

Graphene CPUs would outdate all previous CPUs by factor of 30. But aside of 1. either costing premium or 2. immediately massively outdate all previous PC and Tablets. They will not create exponential growth because of all previous infrastructure and experience from previous silicon CPUs would be already here and would allow immediate nearly optimal design of Graphene, or optical, CPUs.
Without some kind of legal trust made by companies who are definitely more interested in long continuous guaranteed small income over becoming really rich fast in short term (and then what would they do?), it would be extremely hard to create affordable cheap and extremely powerful PC usable as dual class for both home work/entertainment and corporation level of stuff.

you just smashed the head of the nail on this statement. so true. if intel or who ever released graphene it would make them them rich there stock worth would climb. Than when almost everyone switched to this thats where there will be trouble in heaven. they would stall on sales and there stock worth would tank faster the AMD.
    
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Good god, if they release a Graphene CPU in the 10 years and dwarf the then current CPUs by 30 times, imagine the folding and output of that computer in intensive tasks redface.gif
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Good god, if they release a Graphene CPU in the 10 years and dwarf the then current CPUs by 30 times, imagine the folding and output of that computer in intensive tasks redface.gif

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Another review with some very interesting results and direct comparison's with the 39XX series:-

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4761/intel-core-i7-4960x---4930k--4820k-ivy-bridge-e-review-22nm-powerhouse

So it looks like if the 3930k's prices start to plummet, then that will be a great buy for a LGA2011 build??? wink.gif
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Got the 3930K with a Gigabyte UP4 x79 board for 122 open box. Has all the features I need.

They also have a rampage 4 extreme refurbished for 335. Question is would that be a better option?

I'm running 2 TITANS, and plan on getting the asus raid ssd pci array, so the up4 seems to plenty of pcie slots for even a sound card.

I'm I missing out on something by skipping on the rampage 4 extreme?
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Another review with some very interesting results and direct comparison's with the 39XX series:-

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4761/intel-core-i7-4960x---4930k--4820k-ivy-bridge-e-review-22nm-powerhouse

So it looks like if the 3930k's prices start to plummet, then that will be a great buy for a LGA2011 build??? wink.gif

The operative word here is if... Ask yourself this... how much have IB mainstream prices dropped since Haswell launched? The answer, not very much at all... if you live close to a MicroCenter you can get pretty good in store pricing on Intel CPUs... but other than that, there's no real price differential...

Having looked at your current rig, in all honesty, my opinion would be if you're still content with your 2600K, you should upgrade your GPU if anything and stick it out with your 2600K for another year. Wait for Haswell-E to upgrade your CPU and mobo.
Edited by SpacemanSpliff - 9/3/13 at 10:01am
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So disappointing, yet so predictably Intel. If this trend is to continue, Haswell will offer little but two extra cores, faster memory and another 5% core performance improvement... if we're lucky.

Intel alone has done plenty on its own to help kill the desktop market with these incremental updates.

I think you're underestimating the performance gain to be had with the jump to DDR4... with 16 threads and double the memory bandwidth with DDR4, Haswell-E presents a drastic overall computing power improvement over anything currently on the market. Grant it we won't see an 8-core non-xx60X CPU until Broadwell-E or beyond, but hell... for someone who's willing to shell out about $2000 for 32 or 64GB of DDR4, a new mobo, and a Haswell-E Extreme, they're going to have a helluva upgrade... and a year is plenty of time to save up the money.
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The 4820k, looks like a beast at its price range. It's basically a 3770k on x79 with 40 pci e lanes. thumb.gifthumb.gif
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