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Why do we care how their cards compare on LN2? We're comparing card's performance levels, not the performance of their operator. If both have the stock air cooler or under water, the 7990 will win outright by a fair margin just about every single time. That's point. Your comparison is like saying a 7 GHz 4770K on LN2 is as good as a 5 GHz 4930K under water..

Because some people care how a card does when pushed to the max, again you are welcome to show me a 7990 under LN2.


LN2 aside though if you look on 3dmark.com both cars have plenty of results in the 12-13k range
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post #72 of 87
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I picked the highest valid result for each on 3dmark.com

you are not comparing the overall scores, right? compare the graphics scores.

so, if most 780s can do 13000, then it is safe to assume that their graphics scores are nowhere near Kingpin's nor majority of the 7990 (checkout the graph).

edit: i think the reason there aren't too many results for the 7990 is 'cause not too many have them. that and crossfiring reference 7970 and watercooling them are better for benching. now i am not sure if this is a reference 7970s but look . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/451314

again, checkout the graphics score.
Edited by rdr09 - 9/20/13 at 8:04am
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post #73 of 87
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you are not comparing the overall scores, right? compare the graphics scores.

so, if most 780s can do 13000, then it is safe to assume that their graphics scores are nowhere near Kingpin's nor majority of the 7990 (checkout the graph).

edit: i think the reason there aren't too many results for the 7990 is 'cause not too many have them. that and crossfiring reference 7970 and watercooling them are better for benching. now i am not sure if this is a reference 7970s but look . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/451314

again, checkout the graphics score.


Yes crossfiring reference 7970s and benching them is better but this thread is about the 7990vs780 so lets stay on topic


780s and 7990s are pretty damn close when overclocked.
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post #74 of 87
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Yes crossfiring reference 7970s and benching them is better but this thread is about the 7990vs780 so lets stay on topic


780s and 7990s are pretty damn close when overclocked.

Not on air or water.
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post #75 of 87
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Not on air or water.

Yes they are close


http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_classified_review,21.html

and the gap would only shrink when overclocked.
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post #76 of 87
Who gives a #### about 3DMark? It's a synthetic test that does not accurately represent real world performance

Stock the 7990 is faster than the 780 by about ~20%. Overclocked (air) they are pretty close only because the 7990 has limited overclocking headroom due to heat. These cards run super warm with reference cooler
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Who gives a #### about 3DMark? It's a synthetic test that does not accurately represent real world performance

Stock the 7990 is faster than the 780 by about ~20%. Overclocked (air) they are pretty close only because the 7990 has limited overclocking headroom due to heat. These cards run super warm with reference cooler

Lots of people do, myself included. I like to bench my cards. and yes i know the 7990 doesnt overclock as well, thats my point, the gap closes when they are overclocked


10fps is pretty close - http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_classified_review,20.html especially given that the gap will shrink once overclocked
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Wow this turned into a who has the bigger c**k competition real fast.
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I know it matters to some, it matters to me, but don't go around making 3DMark into something it is not.

10 fps is pretty large. That's a 22% performance advantage by the 7990. In some titles like Hitman Absolution you'll see a pretty large gap (32%) between the two. At the end of the day, you'd be lucky to get another 100MHz out of any 7990. Like I said, these cards have limited headroom due to heat -- 780 plays catch-up and eventually catches it or comes close because of this.
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I know it matters to some, it matters to me, but don't go around making 3DMark into something it is not.

10 fps is pretty large. That's a 22% performance advantage by the 7990. In some titles like Hitman Absolution you'll see a pretty large gap (32%) between the two. At the end of the day, you'd be lucky to get another 100MHz out of any 7990. Like I said, these cards have limited headroom due to heat -- 780 plays catch-up and eventually catches it or comes close because of this.


Yeah stock the 7990 has the lead, all my point was that they are pretty damn close when overclocked though.
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