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Poll Results: Best bang for the buck

 
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    Kingston HyperX Beast 16GB (2 x 8GB) 2400 $175
  • 100% (1)
    CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) 2133 $240
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    G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) $170
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    Team Xtreem 16GB (4x4GB) 2133 c9 $159 (<--Not the LV)
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    Other?
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post #1 of 4
Thread Starter 
Hi overclock.net, I've been here for years, but never had any reason to peep until now lol.

So I have spent the last few days and most of my time trying to narrow down my choices on memory that is worth buying.

I'm rebuilding my computer with a new ASRock OC Formula Mobo and the Intel I7 3770k Cpu.
I have the Corsair Carbide 500R Arctic White Case, H-100 cooler, 120GB SSD HD and GTX 670 4gb FTW currently.

I'm throwing out my 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600 F3-12800CL9Q-16GBRL because they have never been fast, nor stable.
Not even before I used them in an oil pc a couple years ago.

I'm a 3d artist, so rendering times and workflow is something that I am greatly trying to decrease.
Something my Biostar 990FXE w/ amd Zambezi 4100 cpu really came up short on.

I don't have a lot of money to begin with and most of it is going into the i7 and ASRock Formula, so choosing
a decently fast memory for the right price is important.

I'm a novice overclocker who enjoys it, but doesn't have a lot of free time at the moment, but plan on getting the most
out of the cpu and memory all in good time. I also want 2x8GB, to allow the option to add an additional 16 gb in the future.


Here are my choices


#1. $175.00 - Kingston HyperX Beast 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model KHX24C11T3K2/16X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104374
Review: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Kingston/HyperX_Beast_2400C11/6.html

I've done a lot of googling today. These seem to be the best bang for the buck at $175.00. I've searched for a lot of benchmarks
and reviews. These came out on top almost every time. It seems they top out right around 2600 though, but not a big deal with it
already being so fast out of the box.

**With i7 3770k
-Stock 2400MHz-
AIDA64 Memory Read: 24,871
AIDA64 Memory Write: 23,995
AIDA64 Memory Copy: 28,053
Latency: 32.7

-OC'd 2634MHz-
AIDA64 Memory Read: 26,356
AIDA64 Memory Write: 24,551
AIDA64 Memory Copy: 29,026
Latency: 30.1


#2. $240 - CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 Desktop Memory Model CMD16GX3M2A2133C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233401
http://www.custompcreview.com/reviews/corsair-dominator-platinum-ddr3-2133mhz-review/16085/5/

Obviously the more aesthetically pleasing memory in the biz. Way way to over priced. But solid.

**With i5-3570k
-Stock 2133MHz-
AIDA64 Memory Read: 20,070
AIDA64 Memory Write: 18,014
AIDA64 Memory Copy: 21,810
Latency: 39.0

-OC'd 2400MHz-
AIDA64 Memory Read: 22,863
AIDA64 Memory Write: 22,833
AIDA64 Memory Copy: 26,349
Latency: 34.2


#3. $170 - G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231589
Review: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/GSkill/F3-2400C10D-8GTX/5.html
Review: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gskill_trident_x/5.htm

Cas Latency 10 frown.gif with already low numbers...
Could these reviews be so different because of the CPU's? Either way, these are not what I expected.

**With i5-3770k @ Techpowerup
-Stock 2400MHz-
AIDA64 Memory Read: 23,986
AIDA64 Memory Write: 21,372
AIDA64 Memory Copy: 26,405
Latency: 32.3

-OC'd 2500MHz-
AIDA64 Memory Read: 23,018
AIDA64 Memory Write: 21,244
AIDA64 Memory Copy: 22,897
Latency: 32.2


**With i7-3770k @ overclockersclub.com
-Stock 2400MHz-
AIDA64 Memory Read: 20,041
AIDA64 Memory Write: 18,814
AIDA64 Memory Copy: 26,405
Latency: 36.2

-OC'd 2500MHz-
AIDA64 Memory Read: 21,183
AIDA64 Memory Write: 24,016
AIDA64 Memory Copy: 27,805
Latency: 32.9


#4 $159.99 Team 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model TXD316G2133HC9NQC-L
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313240

My first choice was the Team Xtreeme LV-2400 Cas Latency 9, which is no longer available.
I saw coolhandluke41 get some unreal results with the LV-2400. He said I couldn't go wrong with the this different team 16gb 2133 setup.
The problem is, its 4x4gb. The 2x8gb version he said is not the same, and probably single sided.
I also can't find any reviews and benchmarking for this new 2133 team x. Benchmarking speaks.
If the results are close to his LV-2400 though, I might be interested despite the 4x4gb respectively.



So there it is. That's everything I have been able to find.
Right now, I plan on purchasing the Kingston tomorrow.
I know most of you have benchmarks that probably put these reviews above to shame, but I had to start somewhere in terms of numbers.
If anyone has any experience or insight on anything else that might beat the Kingston in their price range I'd really
appreciate the advice. Please post benchmarks if at all possible.

Thanks again!
post #2 of 4
For rendering work, all your options are over priced. Faster memory is only going to have a modest impact on your render times.
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I'm no expert, but how could you be so sure.
In large scenes over 1million polygons, the scene robs the memory quickly. 16GB can disappear, especially when the ram is sending it to GPU for GPU Rendering.
I've had scenes take 2 minutes for the DIMM to drain into the GPU.
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Originally Posted by leblanc980 View Post

I'm no expert, but how could you be so sure.

I can change the speed of my memory and measure the difference.

Here is a simple test.

Run one of your renders with your current memory (DDR3-1600 correct?) and record the time it takes. Now, set the memory to DDR3-800 or 1066 in the BIOS and render the same thing, the same way, again. Unless render speed dramatically worsens, you probably aren't going to see a significant jump moving to DDR3-2133. Remember, there will also be significantly diminishing returns, so even if you lose 20% of your performance by cutting your memory speed in half, doubling it may only result in a 10% boost...going from 1600 to 2133 could be as little as ~5% in the same example.
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Originally Posted by leblanc980 View Post

In large scenes over 1million polygons, the scene robs the memory quickly. 16GB can disappear, especially when the ram is sending it to GPU for GPU Rendering.

I'm not saying your work isn't memory intensive, but needing tons of memory is very difference from being significantly limited by the performance of your memory.
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I've had scenes take 2 minutes for the DIMM to drain into the GPU.

This doesn't necessarily imply much.
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Crucial M500 480GB 2x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB XSPC RX360 + X20 750 + Raystorm Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 
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Plextor M6e 128GB (fw 1.05) M.2 (PCI-E 2.0 2x) 2x Crucial M4 256GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB Cooler Master Nepton 280L 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 BenQ BL3200PT Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Corsair RM1000x 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 CM Storm Spawn Realtek ALC1150 + M-Audio AV40 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5670 Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Reference R9 290X w/Stilt's MLU 1000e / 1375m E... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 1600MT/s 7-8-8-19-T1,... 
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Prolimatech Genesis + 2x140mm Cougar 1200rpm Windows Server 2008 R2 Antec TP-750 Antec P182 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-9590 @ 5GHz, 1.55v ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 Reference NVIDIA GTX 780 2x8GiB G.Skill DDR3-1866 10-11-10-30-T1, 1.5v 
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