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Hey everyone. I'm going to be building a new rig in the next two months. I've decided on an i5 3570K in an MSI Z77A-G45. This setup fits my budget pretty well. I've been reading Swag's post on OCing Ivy Bridge in Asus boards. I guess my first question is: Will this guide be useful to me with this MSI board? Or is there another guide I should look at? Or better still, is there an Asus board that's roughly equal to (or better than) this MSI board at close to the same price (give or take $20)? I don't plan on going too extreme with the OC. Probably just 4.2 or 4.3GHz.

For cooling, I was also originally looking the Noctua NH-D14 but it's a bit pricy. My second choice is a Hyper 212 EVO. Would that be sufficient for this setup? The $50 price difference is kind of a big deal.

Lastly, I've spent a lot of time on Google, overclock.net and Tom's Hardware trying to figure out what RAM would be the best match for me with this setup. I'm pretty much dead set on the G.Skill Ripjaws X series but I'm not sure what I should be getting in the way of speed, timing and CAS. A lot of what I read suggests that either 1600 or 2133 is best for speed, but timing and CAS vary depending on who's writing the post. What would be the best bet for this system configuration? Oh, I'm going for 8GB (2x 4GB) if that matters. Would it make sense to OC the memory for this build as well? If so, I can make a post in the memory subforum for more specifics.

Again, I'm an OC noob, but I've done a lot of reading in the last few days. I know I've asked a lot of questions but I want to make sure all of my bases are covered before I finalize this rig and order the parts, let alone start tinkering with timings and multipliers and such. I'm sure I'll have a lot more questions before this is all up and running.

Thanks guys.
post #2 of 8
The board seems to be ok based on the newegg reviews. I'll stick with it but you might want to have the latest BIOS on a USB drive ready just in case you experience any compatibility issues. Overclocking is relatively easy but *****s be making it very hard by trying to fiddle with everything. I'm sure any ivy overclocking guide will be good enough for your needs.

As for the cooler, the 212 is a great choice and I think it should get the job done, if you'll only be overclocking moderately . As you've probably noticed, the quality of the chip will determine how good it is at overclocking. The goal is to determine the highest stable clock the CPU can hit while feeding it the lowest voltage possible. An average chip should hit 4.2-4.5ghz easily without having to go crazy on v-core voltage so I wouldn't worry about batch # and all that jazz.

Lastly, 8GB at 1600mhz ram is ideal for gaming builds and i doubt you'll notice any difference with higher clocked RAM unless you'll be benching competively. If you do find higher clocked RAM at a good price, jump on it. I know newegg sells 2400mhz g-skill ripjaws at 70 box or so. Goodluck with your build. thumb.gif
Edited by Tobiman - 8/23/13 at 10:17pm
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Well that's great to hear! Glad that I don't have to make any major modifications.

Yea, the modest OC is all I need. Just get some of the extra performance the CPU is capable of but not go too crazy. I'm not a purist or anything and the extra 5 or 6 frames per second that I could squeeze out mean nothing to me, realistically.

Thanks for your swift response. I'll keep watching this thread for others, but hopefully nobody comes along and rains om my parade tongue.gif
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Lastly, 8GB at 1600mhz ram is ideal for gaming builds and i doubt you'll notice any difference with higher clocked RAM unless you'll be benching competively. If you do find higher clocked RAM at a good price, jump on it. I know newegg sells 2400mhz g-skill ripjaws at 70 box or so. Goodluck with your build. thumb.gif

The build I've got so far here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1wgcB

One question. Apparently the 2400 memory is 1.65V and it's telling me the Ivy Bridge recommended is 1.5V. I've seen people on here with 2400 memory in their Ivy Bridge builds. Is this a problem? Am I going to have to tweak things to get it to work properly or will using 1600 be less of a headache?
post #5 of 8
nah, although, the system might set it to 1600mhz by default so you'll have to change it to 2400mhz in bios.
post #6 of 8
You might also want to consider haswell since youll be buying new parts.
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You might also want to consider haswell since youll be buying new parts.

None of the Haswell's that are unlocked are within my price range. I only see two on NewEgg, the 4670K being the cheaper at $240. It is showing as $200 at MicroCenter, but I don't know if that price will still be good when the third week of September comes and I receive my financial aid check. There are some cheaper 1150 motherboards on NewEgg than the 1155 I've got picked out. They all pretty much have five star ratings at the moment because there are so few ratings. Any suggestions? The least I could do is put together a wish list and check the prices when it comes time to buy.

Appreciating the help.
post #8 of 8
I bought an 1156 board and i3 530 just before the 1155 platforms were released and yeah I got everything for dirt cheap but I ended up switching to an 1155 board within 1 year - 1 1/2 years. So cheap now yes but cheaper if I just would have bought the 1155 stuff in the first place.

I currently run a gigibyte z77 - ud3h - i3570k - Kingston 8Gb HyperX 1600mhz

Personally if I were you I'd figure out what board I was going to get...go to their website and see what the recommended RAM for the board is and buy something off that list. I've been going that route for a long time now and have always been happy with the results. My Kingston runs 1.65v all day long now for years no problems. I've read that you can get a better OC if you populate all your ram slots (identical ram) I don't know if that's true or not though.

A 4.2 - 4.3 OC should be pretty achievable with even a moderate cooling solution like a hyper 212 keep in mind every chip is different though. I personally run Noctua case fans and I think they are worth every penny. Highest quality fans I've ever used.

If I was going to buy a MoBo my preference would be Asus -> Gigabyte -> ?. I wouldn't buy a MSI board (or anything) for personal reasons. I'm not sold on the 2 gigabyte boards I've had either but reasonable for the price. Gigabyte/Intel is pretty much what Mac is these days. Hackintosh is dead simple with giga/intel.

Basically all you need to know/find in the BIOS to OC a i3570k is Load Line Calibration - set to high. Change your turbo multipliers (to 42 or 43) and set your CPU amps and watts to 200 and 300. I mean you'll find a guide you can use but it is fairly simple.

I'd go 1150 if I was planning on keeping it for more than 2 years.
Edited by Chillin - 8/28/13 at 8:31pm
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