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Hey fellas, I am finally planning my first APU build after waiting for a few generations of updating and improvements. I would like some opinions on which A85 motherboard and what DDR3 memory (brand and speed/size) to get the optimum running system with an A10 richland. (the biggest one that I believe will run ddr3-2100 or 2400). I have been leaning toword the Giga up4 or the Asrk extreme 6 mobo's , but if I new the ECS had a good vrm count/ design, I would love to have that "golden" mobo as it's just so sweet looking!! The Gigabyte up4 has 8+2 vrm's and I'm not sure about the Asrock A85 extreme 6, but their usually well built.
As far as memory, I usually always ran either Kingston Hyper-x blue 1866 (with the tall 'sinks) or dominator 1866 GT with my 990fx/phenom II systems. I9 would like to run as high of speed as possible, with the lowest size sticks possible for ease of overclocking. Either 4x2gb sticks of sum'n or 2x4 gb sticks.

I'lll be using an XFX 650 watt (the new design which is built by seasonic) and multiple velociraptor drives for storage in raid, as well as 2 ssd's for boot drive in raid 0. It'll all be going into a HAF XB desktop case, so any size board up to standard ATX will be fine and fit okay. I have an Antec 620 for cpu cooling, as well as will be getting a 7750 to "dual graphics" with the APU. I hope that I haven't read wrong about that, as far as a 7750 working in dual graphics...?? I read that as long as it's ddr3 memory in it, so it matches the memory type of the system, then it will work great. A ddr5 cxard would only have problems, I guess??


Any help or direction is appreciated, so thanks in advance.

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I think the APU's are good budget builds. Good for gaming but not high end gaming. So it depends on your needs. The APU's are no doubt good performers but wit main stream cpu's being cheaper they serve as a better option for gaming. The A10 6800 would be around the 150$ mark. It's better to get the FX 6300 which is 120$ or less and save the extra money for a kick ass gpu. The Radeon 7750 is 100$ on newegg. But if you save the extra 30$ by going with the FX 6300 you could get the Radeon 7850 for 139$ on newegg. Here- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161406. tongue.gif
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Yea, it does seem like a lot of money to dump into a machine for it to just be a APU based machine. I would suggest holding out on a APU build until Kaveri comes, as it will be much faster and its DGM mode shouldn't have any issues with the HD 7750 and possibly faster cards. If its not something you absolutely need, I would wait. There are a bunch of really nice FM2+ boards waiting to be released on the market. Such as the G1.Sniper A88X or the F2A88X-UP4. Tho if you can't hold out, I own the ASRock Extreme6. It's a really nice and pretty solid board. The only issue that I have with it, is it runs your CPU and GPU at 100% when inside the bios making changes. I am on liquid, and if I sit in the bios long enough it will punch 60C. Tho that might be fixable with a bios update, I haven't really bothered as I don't spend any time in the bios. It packs a 8+2 phase VRM, so it's a overclocking dream. As for memory I would aim for at least 2133, if you can pick up 2400 then it probably would help your frame rates a bit. And as for the DGM with the HD 7750, that's entirely hit and miss. Some people can get it to work, and others cant. Tho you will see better and smoother gaming performance if you went with a 750k + HD 7770. If you wanna build one just to have one, I would save your money and still wait for Kaveri. That will be the "must have" APU, and sadly its not backwards compatible with existing FM2 boards. I plan on selling my A10-6800k + Extreme6 setup a few days after Kaveri has been tested to confirm it will be an actual upgrade.
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Yea, it does seem like a lot of money to dump into a machine for it to just be a APU based machine. I would suggest holding out on a APU build until Kaveri comes, as it will be much faster and its DGM mode shouldn't have any issues with the HD 7750 and possibly faster cards. If its not something you absolutely need, I would wait. There are a bunch of really nice FM2+ boards waiting to be released on the market. Such as the G1.Sniper A88X or the F2A88X-UP4. Tho if you can't hold out, I own the ASRock Extreme6. It's a really nice and pretty solid board. The only issue that I have with it, is it runs your CPU and GPU at 100% when inside the bios making changes. I am on liquid, and if I sit in the bios long enough it will punch 60C. Tho that might be fixable with a bios update, I haven't really bothered as I don't spend any time in the bios. It packs a 8+2 phase VRM, so it's a overclocking dream. As for memory I would aim for at least 2133, if you can pick up 2400 then it probably would help your frame rates a bit. And as for the DGM with the HD 7750, that's entirely hit and miss. Some people can get it to work, and others cant. Tho you will see better and smoother gaming performance if you went with a 750k + HD 7770. If you wanna build one just to have one, I would save your money and still wait for Kaveri. That will be the "must have" APU, and sadly its not backwards compatible with existing FM2 boards. I plan on selling my A10-6800k + Extreme6 setup a few days after Kaveri has been tested to confirm it will be an actual upgrade.
Kaveri will be released sometime early next year??
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Kaveri will be released sometime early next year??
I was told by AMD shipping in 2013, and shelf availability in early 2014.
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I was told by AMD shipping in 2013, and shelf availability in early 2014.
Sounds promising. Hope the performance of it would equal an FX 6300 atleast.
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First off, thanks to y'all for some excellent advice. Second, I am planning a separate FX build which will be my "power" macxhine so I am just going to try an APU system and see how it performs. It will be for my bedroom to watch 1080i movies mainly, and some light gaming with my son's. If it performs well enough, with the drossfire, it'll end up in the kids' room for their gaming and online stuff.
WOW I really like the looks of that Gigabyte sniper board as well... ansd am surprised that it has already been released too. That gives me some idea as to how soon the new APU will be launched. I'll stick with Richland as the FM2+ socket is compatible, due to price as I usually save a lot of money by buying my hardware about a generation behind. I can always upgrade if I want in the future too. If I don't like the performance of the APU's then I still have the option to stick a quad core Athlon II in, and drop in one of the extra new 6970 Sapphire cards that I bought recently from Newegg for 160 bucks.... That'll give me a pretty zippy machine and I can always sell the Richland to recoup some of my cost.
The FX-8350 rig that I am building, will hopefully be less of a disappointment that my mid-2012 FX-8120 rig was. I paired the 8120 with a sapphire 6870, corsair force 3 ssd, and an Asrock Fatality 990fx mobo, as well as 2x4 gb of Ripjaws-x 1866 memory. Severely disappointed. So I put my trusty old 1100t back in there and I was happy again. Sold off the 8120 for 100 bucks. The per-core performance of the newer FX series is supposed to be like 15 percent better.
Speaking of the Fatality series, I haven't seen them anymore since they released the extreme 9 series... huh??

Thanks again for y'alls input. Does anyone have information on the power phases on the FM2 boards -- the asrock extreme 6, the ecs golden, or the Biostar a85w??
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Originally Posted by oldcompgeek View Post

First off, thanks to y'all for some excellent advice. Second, I am planning a separate FX build which will be my "power" macxhine so I am just going to try an APU system and see how it performs. It will be for my bedroom to watch 1080i movies mainly, and some light gaming with my son's. If it performs well enough, with the drossfire, it'll end up in the kids' room for their gaming and online stuff.
WOW I really like the looks of that Gigabyte sniper board as well... ansd am surprised that it has already been released too. That gives me some idea as to how soon the new APU will be launched. I'll stick with Richland as the FM2+ socket is compatible, due to price as I usually save a lot of money by buying my hardware about a generation behind. I can always upgrade if I want in the future too. If I don't like the performance of the APU's then I still have the option to stick a quad core Athlon II in, and drop in one of the extra new 6970 Sapphire cards that I bought recently from Newegg for 160 bucks.... That'll give me a pretty zippy machine and I can always sell the Richland to recoup some of my cost.
The FX-8350 rig that I am building, will hopefully be less of a disappointment that my mid-2012 FX-8120 rig was. I paired the 8120 with a sapphire 6870, corsair force 3 ssd, and an Asrock Fatality 990fx mobo, as well as 2x4 gb of Ripjaws-x 1866 memory. Severely disappointed. So I put my trusty old 1100t back in there and I was happy again. Sold off the 8120 for 100 bucks. The per-core performance of the newer FX series is supposed to be like 15 percent better.
Speaking of the Fatality series, I haven't seen them anymore since they released the extreme 9 series... huh??

Thanks again for y'alls input. Does anyone have information on the power phases on the FM2 boards -- the asrock extreme 6, the ecs golden, or the Biostar a85w??
The Extreme6 is the strongest of the bunch, even the APU overclock world record was done on the Extreme6. I have one and its a great board, tho like I said in my last post the only issue I have is the 100% CPU load while in the bios settings. Which isn't a big issue, as long as you don't spend too much time in it. It has a beefy 8+2 phase VRM, its one of the best FM2 boards available to enthusiasts. Tho if you don't plan on doing any overclocking, you can get a much cheaper board. I would also suggest looking into getting aftermarket cooling too. Because these chips run a little too hot for the little aluminum heatsink they come with. Even a Hyper 212 Plus is miles better than what comes with these.
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Okay, thanks! I do have a strong brand loyalty to Asrock as well as their performance mobo's have always performed great. That 8120 that I didn't care for, went to 5ghz w/o any issues on my Fatality, and it had power phases to spare. I love the UEFI that asrock has too... although I am not sure if the others are similar to the Fatality one. The only other 990fx mobo that I liked as much as it was my trusty ol' MSI 990FXA-GD80 that I bought b/c it was on open box for 117 dollars for a backup to my 990fx and it was awesome. I also snapped it up b/c I had to find out if all the crap ppl were saying about MSI was true or not. I eventually sold it in my THOR build along with my deneb 965 which I miss by the way...lol. Thanks again for the advice.
The extreme series is a nice looking layout as well, whether it's the FM2 or 990FX. Have always stayed away from ASUS since 3 different boards in a row had issues... Asrock has always been excellent every time w/o any issues whatsoever.
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