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A GTX 770 build for under £770. Suggestions, GO! or, y'know, kick that GTX 760 build down for less than £700!

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Let me paint the scene... I'm planning a build a few months down the road when my friend buys my current rig. (And hopefully this will be honoured.)

Anyway, I have planned 2 similarly priced builds. One with AMX FX 8320 and one with Intel 3570K. I priced them as close as possible by skimping on some parts here and there, and I wouldn't mind having either, even though Intel's per core performance tempts me more. Now these build are using NO SSD as I can't afford those playthings, and are currently planned with a single GTX 760 or Radeon HD 7950.

Here are the two builds with 760 as it stands.
FX-8320 based build (Click to show)
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£118.79 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler (£67.37 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£135.96 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£209.99 @ Novatech)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£14.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£77.00 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£65.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £748.24
Intel 3570K based build (Click to show)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£172.59 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler (£67.37 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.96 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£203.71 @ Scan.co.uk)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N15 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£14.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£77.00 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£65.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £761.76

But what if I was to to go a GTX 770, and skimp more or other parts?

I mean, I don't plan on SLI as I think single card is easier to deal with and replace, and I don't plan on Eyefinity or Surround as I will always run 1 monitor, currently 1080p and only 1440p WAYYY down into the future. We're talking years.

So now, this thread, is both for, finding a decent motherboard that allows decent OC on CPU and has decent components, for both the 760 builds or, somehow fit the 770 in there whilist keeping the price as low as possible. I'm so low on budget like you wouldn't believe.

So my fellow OCNers, brainstorm, GO!

(Help much appreciated.)

EDIT: Forgot to mention, would really prefer the case to stay as a Fractal Design Define R4. biggrin.gif
Might as well make a list of requirements:

Must be cased inside a Fractal Design Define R4/Define Mini, or Corsair 350D
ATX/mATX ok
Motherboard must be able to handle some decent overclocking (say, 4.2+ to 4.5) without some hard problems.
GPU limited to GTX 760/770, Radeon HD 7950 and 7870 XT (Cheap in UK, that's why. But performance wise.... would be better to go 760?)
Silence/quiet build preferred.

So it's either make the existing plans cheaper whilst meeting eh requirements, or try to fit a 770 within the same price bracket! smile.gif Have fun and thanks guys! biggrin.gif
Edited by neo0031 - 8/26/13 at 1:12pm
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I know your looking you solutions you fit your 770 into the budget but I just dont think that is the right idea. Nothing beats the value of a 7950 right now. A 770 is about $400 and a 7950 is about $210, the 770 just doesnt live up to that $400 compared to the 7950. I would get eh 7950 and spend that $200 in other parts of your build, so that you dont have to skimp in other areas. Sorry I spaced that your using the euro, which these cards are priced closer together over there.
Edited by Namkab - 8/26/13 at 8:39am
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£172.59 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Be Quiet DARK ROCK PRO 2 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (£53.24 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£78.26 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.00 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£318.50 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£14.50 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£39.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£38.34 @ Aria PC)
Total: £767.01
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-26 16:32 BST+0100)

And didn't have to really skimp anywhere but ever so slightly on the case. And your PSU was already overkill for a single GPU/CPU even overclocked. And the Extreme4 Z77 is just a no-no.
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I know your looking you solutions you fit your 770 into the budget but I just dont think that is the right idea. Nothing beats the value of a 7950 right now. A 770 is about $400 and a 7950 is about $210, the 770 just doesnt live up to that $400 compared to the 7950. I would get eh 7950 and spend that $200 in other parts of your build, so that you dont have to skimp in other areas. Sorry I spaced that your using the euro, which these cards are priced closer together over there.

Yes I am pricing by GBP pounds. And the 7950 is priced close to the 760 right now, and both are very tempting, hence in both of my build plans.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£172.59 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Be Quiet DARK ROCK PRO 2 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (£53.24 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£78.26 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.00 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£318.50 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£14.50 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£39.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£38.34 @ Aria PC)
Total: £767.01
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-26 16:32 BST+0100)

And didn't have to really skimp anywhere but ever so slightly on the case. And your PSU was already overkill for a single GPU/CPU even overclocked. And the Extreme4 Z77 is just a no-no.

450W?! Could that run everything OK with OC room though... Thanks Kinaesthetic. Love it when you help.

But I forgot to mention the case can't be changed from a Define R4 tongue.gif Want it for the looks and quiet... tongue.gif I know I'm making it difficult... frown.gif

I should add this to the OP.

EDIT: I was going to get Gigabyte as per usual but as far as colour scheme goes... tongue.gif Also, I know 650 is a bit overkill, but it's well over 50% usage too. Thought to be on the safe side, a notch over 500w? (Hence 650)
Edited by neo0031 - 8/26/13 at 10:33am
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OP get a Haswell 4570 with a MSI HD 7970 Lightning . for single GPU you don't need a high CPU OC.

core i5 4570 - 157
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CV3E3WK/?tag=pcp0f-21

Gigabyte H87 - 70
http://www.ebuyer.com/507056-gigabyte-ga-h87m-hd3-socket-1150-hdmi-dvi-matx-motherboard-ga-h87m-hd3

Crucial8GB (2 x 4GB) - 55
http://www.ebuyer.com/342444-crucial-8gb-ddr3-1600mhz-ballistic-elite-memory-kit-ble2cp4g3d1608de1tx0ceu

Fractal Design R4 - 77
http://www.ebuyer.com/391898-fractal-design-r4-black-pearl-case-fd-ca-def-r4-bl

ANTEC HCG 520M - 67
http://www.ebuyer.com/341395-antec-520w-high-current-gamer-modular-psu-0-761345-06211-4

Wireless adapter - 16
http://www.ebuyer.com/337540-asus-pce-n10-wireless-n150-pcie-adapter-pce-n10

MSI HD 7970 Lightning BE (1150 mhz) - 338
http://www.ebuyer.com/520332-msi-amd-r7970-1150mhz-6000mhz-3072mb-384-bit-ddr5-dvi-i-4-mini-dp-fan-pci-e-r7970-lightning-be

TOTAL 780

if you want an unlocked CPU here is 4670k

core i5 4670k - 185
http://www.ebuyer.com/467647-cpu-core-i5-4670k-3-40ghz-lga1150-box-bx80646i54670k

Gigabyte Z87 - 100
http://www.ebuyer.com/507048-gigabyte-ga-z87-hd3-socket-1150-hdmi-dvi-atx-motherboard-ga-z87-hd3

Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO - 25
http://www.ebuyer.com/288855-coolermaster-hyper-212-evo-rr-212e-16pk-r1

MSI HD 7970 TF3 OC BE - 259
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-msi-radeon-hd-7970-twin-frozr-iii-oc-boost-edition-5500mhz-gddr5-28nm-gpu-1000mhz-2048-cores-mdp

TOTAL 785

also when spending so much money 15 - 20 bucks is not to be a deal breaker.
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OP get a Haswell 4570 with a MSI HD 7970 Lightning . for single GPU you don't need a high CPU OC.
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also when spending so much money 15 - 20 bucks is not to be a deal breaker.

Yes I do want an unlocked CPU unfortunately, since this IS OCN and I would like some OCing... I'm not OCing to run a GPU best as I know most modern GPU can do fine... Want the horsepower to run other programs for rendering etc.

But anyway, I don't think I'll be buying into Haswell as it gets too hot for my liking when OCing, and who knows if Intel will be good to the 1150 socket...

Are the Intel side of the Gigabyte boards (z77/z87) generally good? Any known problems to them? Because of the problems present to the AMD side of the deal (990FXA UD3 and the warping) I'm being VERY wary for the motherboard, whilst wanting to keep the price down with OC ability. Not massive OC capability like the RoG boards, but enough for some fun 4.5GHz, 4.2GHz without breaking the heat threshold on VRM heatsink and what not.

I know I'm asking for too much. tongue.gif

And whenever I settle on one side like the nVidia side and some more tells me to go back to AMD and vice versa... tongue.gif Oy vey. I think I'll stay with either a GTX 760, a Radeon HD 7950, or a GTX 770.

Keep it coming guys. I'll take the parts you guys mention and see if I can't put out a revised build by the end of tonight. biggrin.gif

EDIT: LOL my 770th post in my GTX 770 post for under £770! WIN!
Edited by neo0031 - 8/26/13 at 1:05pm
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Yes I am pricing by GBP pounds. And the 7950 is priced close to the 760 right now, and both are very tempting, hence in both of my build plans.
450W?! Could that run everything OK with OC room though... Thanks Kinaesthetic. Love it when you help.

But I forgot to mention the case can't be changed from a Define R4 tongue.gif Want it for the looks and quiet... tongue.gif I know I'm making it difficult... frown.gif

I should add this to the OP.

EDIT: I was going to get Gigabyte as per usual but as far as colour scheme goes... tongue.gif Also, I know 650 is a bit overkill, but it's well over 50% usage too. Thought to be on the safe side, a notch over 500w? (Hence 650)


Well, in terms of power draw, even a very good 450w unit would be more than ample power for a single GPU system.

Take this video for example:

A Dual GPU (the super power hungry GTX 580 times two) couldn't even pull under 600. Kepler is beyond more efficient in power draw than Fermi, so you probably wouldn't even be breaking the 350w total power barrier even with overclocking. And the XFX unit is a very solid PSU.
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Yes I do want an unlocked CPU unfortunately, since this IS OCN and I would like some OCing... I'm not OCing to run a GPU best as I know most modern GPU can do fine... Want the horsepower to run other programs for rendering etc.

But anyway, I don't think I'll be buying into Haswell as it gets too hot for my liking when OCing, and who knows if Intel will be good to the 1150 socket...

Are the Intel side of the Gigabyte boards (z77/z87) generally good? Any known problems to them? Because of the problems present to the AMD side of the deal (990FXA UD3 and the warping) I'm being VERY wary for the motherboard, whilst wanting to keep the price down with OC ability. Not massive OC capability like the RoG boards, but enough for some fun 4.5GHz, 4.2GHz without breaking the heat threshold on VRM heatsink and what not.

I know I'm asking for too much. tongue.gif

And whenever I settle on one side like the nVidia side and some more tells me to go back to AMD and vice versa... tongue.gif Oy vey. I think I'll stay with either a GTX 760, a Radeon HD 7950, or a GTX 770.

Keep it coming guys. I'll take the parts you guys mention and see if I can't put out a revised build by the end of tonight. biggrin.gif

EDIT: LOL my 770th post in my GTX 770 post for under £770! WIN!

However, I know you want the Define R4, so I built around it:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£172.59 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Scythe SCMN-2000 92.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£28.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£78.26 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.00 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£307.00 @ Scan.co.uk)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£14.50 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£77.00 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£38.34 @ Aria PC)
Total: £768.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-26 21:59 BST+0100)

Still under your cost requirement. Still retains an unlocked CPU, and also allows you to still have the GTX 770 you'd like to have. And also retains a CPU cooler that is still well performing enough to be comparable to the Phanteks PH-TC14PE (although it doesn't look as good).

And it still retains your Define R4. Also, congrats on the 770 post count tongue.gif
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Well, in terms of power draw, even a very good 450w unit would be more than ample power for a single GPU system.

Take this video for example:

A Dual GPU (the super power hungry GTX 580 times two) couldn't even pull under 600. Kepler is beyond more efficient in power draw than Fermi, so you probably wouldn't even be breaking the 350w total power barrier even with overclocking. And the XFX unit is a very solid PSU.
However, I know you want the Define R4, so I built around it:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£172.59 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Scythe SCMN-2000 92.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£28.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£78.26 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.00 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£307.00 @ Scan.co.uk)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£14.50 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£77.00 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£38.34 @ Aria PC)
Total: £768.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-26 21:59 BST+0100)

Still under your cost requirement. Still retains an unlocked CPU, and also allows you to still have the GTX 770 you'd like to have. And also retains a CPU cooler that is still well performing enough to be comparable to the Phanteks PH-TC14PE (although it doesn't look as good).

And it still retains your Define R4. Also, congrats on the 770 post count tongue.gif

Thank you good sir. You do magic with budgets. +Rep indeed.

I'm starting to sense that you sense that I do want the rig to look good tongue.gif I will certainly take these parts into considerations, especially the MB which I've included in my plan. I will google around later for reviews and problems, but right now I'm only disliking the colour scheme and the legacy PCI ports, but other than that, I will get the board if it's a good board.

It's a dual tower cooler too... Hmm. Of course it'd be either that Scythe or I'll get the old (again) 212 Evo. But we'll see.

See, as for the power supply problem, I was going by the amount of power it can draw. For example, an 8 pin PCIe with the PCIe slot itself can provide 175W + 75W to the GPU. That along is 200+W power. And then there's the CPU's own TDP. Of course I won't be hitting that constantly, but then again, some OCing and other peripherals (small power draw, I know). But hence my decision for 500+. I'll keep looking though.

Thanks again! biggrin.gif I'll post a build later with either the 760 or 770. Hoping to hit under £700 with the 760 build with decent looking parts too. so it'd be either that or else. Anyway.
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