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Originally Posted by GHADthc View Post

I was under the impression mouse acceleration can be disabled on all mice with a simple reg edit,

this script has had a noticeable effect on every lazer mouse I've owned since 2005 (g5 (x2), g9, g9x, lachesis, g500, m.m.o.7 (x2), sensei, wow cata)

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/763/cpl-mouse-fix/

have you tried it before?
    
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Originally Posted by fleetfeather View Post

this script has had a noticeable effect on every lazer mouse I've owned since 2005 (g5 (x2), g9, g9x, lachesis, g500, m.m.o.7 (x2), sensei, wow cata)

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/763/cpl-mouse-fix/

have you tried it before?

That script has zero effect on mice. It only removes accel from windows, and cpl mouse fix its not flawless iirc.
post #23 of 32
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Originally Posted by Berserker1 View Post

That script has zero effect on mice. It only removes accel from windows, and cpl mouse fix its not flawless iirc.

Interesting. Educate me; how does a mouse itself calculate it's hardware-level mouse acceleration if, as a peripheral, it's polling rate is set to a constant rate and the main system has set registry-deep preferences to not use any such acceleration calculations (assuming it can indeed do so)?

The only way i can theorize this happening is if polling rates weren't precise and slightly latent polls caused an increased displacement of the cursor on a end users screen
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post #24 of 32
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Interesting. Educate me; how does a mouse itself calculate it's hardware-level mouse acceleration if, as a peripheral, it's polling rate is set to a constant rate and the main system has set registry-deep preferences to not use any such acceleration calculations (assuming it can indeed do so)?

The only way i can theorize this happening is if polling rates weren't precise and slightly latent polls caused an increased displacement of the cursor on a end users screen

The sensor itself transmits wrong data. That's how accel occurs. It doesn't read the movement accurately enough and reports more or less counts than it should for a 1:1 ratio.
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The sensor itself transmits wrong data. That's how accel occurs. It doesn't read the movement accurately enough and reports more or less counts than it should for a 1:1 ratio.

Ah yep, makes sense to me. How would it ever be possible to fix completely though; at it's absolutely most basic, those 'more' or 'less' counts are still going to result from voltage ripple produced by any non-100% efficiency psu traveling through the mobo to the usb header to the mouse itself as it tries to poll on time. Ripple will cause unwanted IO activity at the wrong points when attempting to poll, causing the mouse acceleration?
    
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post #26 of 32
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Ah yep, makes sense to me. How would it ever be possible to fix completely though; at it's absolutely most basic, those 'more' or 'less' counts are still going to result from voltage ripple produced by any non-100% efficiency psu traveling through the mobo to the usb header to the mouse itself as it tries to poll on time. Ripple will cause unwanted IO activity at the wrong points when attempting to poll, causing the mouse acceleration?

There is always accel, the question is if it is perceivable by humans, which it isn't for the "better" sensors like A3090. But many people don't even notice the inherent accel on A9500/A9800 sensors...
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post #27 of 32
It's OK in most games but when I try to play Quake with a A9500/A9800 I start noticing it. You're being alot less stationary in Quake and while it requires less precision then CS imo, it does require more muscle memory and this accel messes it up.

Especially when you get in situations where you wouldn't even nail the shot half of the time, but out of pure muscle memory and reflexes and just willpower... POW you nail the shot and get away with a situation you normally wouldn't.

It's those kind of shots I really really miss more often with the newer laser mice.

And the Zowie AM wasn't a solution because it malfunctioned in half of those situations for me.
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post #28 of 32
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Yeah, actually make me a list with source included, that would be nice indeed..

Here's some

caseyfoster - 450 dpi, 6/11, 1.5.
DaZeD - 450 dpi, 6/11, 1.8.
Delpan - 400 dpi, 6/11, 1.5.
frozt, 450 dpi, 6/11, 1.4.
AZK - 450 dpi, 6/11, 1.75.
RpK - 400 dpi, 6/11, 1.8.
RE1EASE - 400 dpi, 6/11, 2.
ScreaM - 400 dpi, 5/11, 2.25.
smithzz - 400 dpi, 6/11, 1.85.
Weber - 400 dpi, 6/11, 2.
miller - 2300 dpi, 6/11, 0.5.
trace - 400 dpi, 6/11, 1.5.

(Source for most of above mentioned)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0Ar3-PLR9I0_MdGFVc1N1Vm5RSW5lTVJsVjRLVm45UlE&output=html
post #29 of 32
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Here's some

caseyfoster - 450 dpi, 6/11, 1.5.
DaZeD - 450 dpi, 6/11, 1.8.
Delpan - 400 dpi, 6/11, 1.5.
frozt, 450 dpi, 6/11, 1.4.
AZK - 450 dpi, 6/11, 1.75.
RpK - 400 dpi, 6/11, 1.8.
RE1EASE - 400 dpi, 6/11, 2.
ScreaM - 400 dpi, 5/11, 2.25.
smithzz - 400 dpi, 6/11, 1.85.
Weber - 400 dpi, 6/11, 2.
miller - 2300 dpi, 6/11, 0.5.
trace - 400 dpi, 6/11, 1.5.

(Source for most of above mentioned)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0Ar3-PLR9I0_MdGFVc1N1Vm5RSW5lTVJsVjRLVm45UlE&output=html

Yeah.. thats a horrible source, i can make a txt too and upload it and claim its a legit source, and in any case that list is 12 out of .. how many?, lol.
that dosent really make 45cm/360 fast or medium sens, just theirs extremely low.
post #30 of 32
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Originally Posted by Axaion View Post

Yeah.. thats a horrible source, i can make a txt too and upload it and claim its a legit source, and in any case that list is 12 out of .. how many?, lol.
that dosent really make 45cm/360 fast or medium sens, just theirs extremely low.
If you go find their settings through facebook/sk gaming profiles or their team/organizations facebook/website the settings are accurate or very similar (due to updates). Also why are you trying to argue with me? You're the one that asked me who uses more than 55 cm/360 as if no one did... See below.
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45cm/360 is closer to low sens than it is medium, I cant even remember anyone who uses higher than 55cm/360.

So.. who uses more than 55cm/360?
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