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The past couple of months have been quite a learning experience when it comes to tech, old, new and on the horizon, as well as the beginnings of understanding how everything works, or should.....

Lately, buying and building comps, has become ever more difficult and I'd like to get people's opinions on not only what they think of the parts I have picked out so far, but offer suggestions for alternatives or suggestions for the stuff I am still wrestling with.
The parts below is what I am looking at right now....

Need some help filling in the blanks and honest opinions on the stuff I have picked out so far.


MOBO: EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

or ASUS Striker Extreme

CPU: Kentsfield Core 2 Extreme

PSU: ENERMAX GALAXY EGA1000EWL ATX/BTX 1000W Power Supply - Retail

or

PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW-SR EPS12V 1000W

MOUSE: Logitech G5 Laser 931376-0403 2-Tone 6 Buttons 1x Wheel USB Laser Mouse - Retail

Logitech MX Revolution

KEYBOARD: Logitech G15 2-Tone USB Wired Standard Keyboard - Retail

or

Logitech® diNovo Edge™

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...ONTENTID=12339

SPEAKERS: Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail

or

M-Audio LX4 2.1 and 5.1 Expander System www.m-audio.com

GFX CARDS: 2 Geforce 8800 GTX's, still deciding on brand. Choices are EVGA, ASUS, BFG, XFX

SOUNDCARD: Creative Labs Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum (already purchased)

HARD DRIVES:

2 x Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM (already purchased)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136012

2 x Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136011

1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3750640AS 750GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148134

RAM: 4GB's of RAM. Looking at Corsair and G-Skill brands. 1066MHZ and higher. Alternatives are welcome.

MOUSE PAD:

OPTICAL DISCS:

FLOPPY DRIVE:

BACKUP DRIVE:

COOLING:

MONITORS: Needs to be at least 24 inches if not bigger and capable of high resolutions.

CASE:

SCANNER/PRINTER/COPIER COMBO:

BACKUP POWER:

WEBCAM:

DIGITAL CAMERA:

HEADPHONES: Extreme Gaming Headphones/W Mic


I know that quite a lot of the parts I am picking out are currently top of the line. The reason being I'm looking for the cutting edge tech, is due to the fact that I am getting a bit older (in Jan I'll be 28) and this might be one of the last chances I will have to drop some serious money into a computer. I am looking for this system to last me about 5 years, if not longer, with minimal modifications in the interim, while being able to play top of the line games and use top of the line editing tools and 3d design apps. The less money the better, but I'm budgetting about $6,500 for this build. Including all accessories, including a possible dual monitor setup, mod tools (or work, since it will be my first foray into case modding as well). Thanks in advance.
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Are you a millionaire? No point getting all those Raptors TBH, especially the raptor X. It's louder, costs more. No point if all you're buying it for is the windows

Just get more Seagate 7200.10s
    
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E6750 @ 3.1GHz ASus P5K-E XFX HD5750 2x2GB Team Elite PC6400 + 2x2GB G.Skill Pi Series. 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
500GB 7200.10 + 160gb WD Windows Vista x64 SP1 Dell SP23" something W. Saitek USB 
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500GB 7200.10 + 160gb WD Windows Vista x64 SP1 Dell SP23" something W. Saitek USB 
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750W Something or other. Beige ATX Mid Case Belkin GLOWY Optical None 
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Are you a millionaire? No point getting all those Raptors TBH, especially the raptor X. It's louder, costs more. No point if all you're buying it for is the windows

Just get more Seagate 7200.10s
You're right, will probably axe the dual Raptor X's, already have my 2 regular Raptors and the soundcard, which will hopefully be enough (heard of the Audigy 2 ZS having some conflicts with Vista).

I can always get more hard drive space later on, should I need it.
post #4 of 17
Sounds like it will be an amazing build. Currently xFx is the only Nvidia partner that has a pre-overclocked card, so if you want to go that route you'll have to go xFx. Of all the card manufactures out there, eVGA, xFx, and BFG are the most respected, no matter which way you go you will be happy with the results. Note that if you are entertaining watercooling the cards that BFG sells cards with waterblocks (DD) already installed. I say go with the eVGA mobo, the striker is currently alot more expensive then it is worth, and the eVGA board is now a very solid buy because of P23, the most recent bios update. All major issues with the board have been resolved. When it comes to the HDD, thats alot of storage. Ofcourse, if you need it then go for it, I just think all those raptors are a little bit of a waste of money. Why not just get afew raptors as your boot/gameing drive, and get some larger perp drives for storage, it will be cheaper, and just about as fast. Monitors, I say go with 2 Dell 2407 WFP, that would be an amazing setup, and they run at a native resolution of 1920*1200, I love mine! Go with the PC Power and Cooling 1kw, best one out there if you can afford it. I really have nothing to say about your ram, you could go the corsair dominator route, or with any other brand out there, just make sure you get D9's... well, thats all I have to say, sounds like a great build!
post #5 of 17
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MOBO: EVGA NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI or ASUS Striker Extreme
I'm not a fan of those chipsets, because of their previous past and some issues that they currently experienced but out of those two though, the Striker Extreme is the one with less quirks. Except I highly recommend the P5B Deluxe instead.


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CPU: Kentsfield Core 2 Extreme
There's really no need for such high powered chip, you could easily do away with the Q6600 which will be less and you can OC that chip to 3.0ghz easy, with the proper HSF of course, such as the Tuniq Tower 120 for $55.


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ENERMAX GALAXY or PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW-SR EPS12V 1000W
That's overkill power, I should say that the PCP&C Silencer 750W will be more th an enough, as it powers two 8800 GTX just fine and I'm sure it could handle them overclocked, so I'd recommend the Silencer 750W, at $220 is a great inexpensive choice.


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GFX CARDS: 2 Geforce 8800 GTX's, still deciding on brand. Choices are EVGA, ASUS, BFG, XFX
I'd say the XFX, the reason why is because it's the only manufacturer that offers a double lifetime warranty, meaning that if you decide to sell one of your card, the lifetime warranty is fully transferable to the person that buys your geforce card, except they have to register as well. I'm going with the XFX myself.


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RAM: 4GB's of RAM. Looking at Corsair and G-Skill brands. 1066MHZ and higher. Alternatives are welcome.
1066mhz RAM is great but DDR2 800 can be pushed to 1000mhz and beyond, but 800s such as the Crucial DDR2 800 kit, G.Skill DDR2 800 HZ kit and Team Xtreem DDR2 800 kit also.
Though I don't think that 4GB will really be necessary and if it is? Well, I guess you could get the 4GB for future proof.


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MONITORS: Needs to be at least 24 inches if not bigger and capable of high resolutions.
Of course, if you're going SLI, you must at the very least have a 24" monitor, but a 30" Apple display will be much better, as the G80s are very powerful.

[quote[CASE:[/quote]I'd suggest the Thermaltake Shark BLK AL Full Tower.

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SCANNER/PRINTER/COPIER COMBO:
The Epson RX580, I only use Epson and have never had an issue, they're the best IMO.


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DIGITAL CAMERA:
Anything by Canon, I luv their PowerShot series, I have a S3 IS PowerShot 6MP and it's one of the least expensive, yet full of great features that most other competitors don't have/offer.



As for the rest? Pretty much anything will do, mouse keyboard, speakers, I'm not too big on those parts, I use a MS combo and a pair of $19.99 Sony headphones. So nothing fancy I guess? Get what's good for you and that's what I'd change/recommend.

Otherwise,
Striker Extreme
Kensfield Extreme
Tuniq Tower 120 HSF
PCPower&C 1000W
Corsair Dominator 1066mhz
XFX 8800 GTX
post #6 of 17
I'd wait on the 8800's to see how the ATI R600 compares to them when it comes out. This website called Level 505 already got an R600 to test, and it outperformed the 8800 pretty solid. Also, the newer generation of games (crysis, etc.) are based on DirextX10 (the new version of directx only available with Vista) and the R600 is supposedly built with DX10 in mind. Wait until the R600 gets fully tested before you get the graphics cards because you'll be dissapointed dropping 1200 on the second best graphics cards on the market.

Here's the article: http://level505.com/2006/12/30/the-f...i-r600-test/1/
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e6700 @ 3.0 (no Vmod) d975xbx rev 305 x1900 xt 2 x 1GB ddr2-754 3-3-3-8 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
150 raptor, 1.0 TB total XP Pro (x86), and Vista (x64) Samsung 225bw Logitech G15 
PowerCaseMouse
700W Alienware Copperhead 
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MOBO: EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

or ASUS Striker Extreme
i'd definitely go with the asus board... whenever i build a system i get asus boards (or msi) and have never been disappointed by them :-)
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There are son good Points above. As most of them are taken the only one I can also comment on would be A kentsfield CPU at current is a little Overkill and as said by another User a C2D E6600-E6700 would serve you just fine and save you money.
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Thanks to all those who posted previously in this thread. I greatly appreciate the feedback. Rep + all around. Apologize for the very slow response, been on vacation for a couple weeks, after an extremely heavy work schedule (60 plus hours a week is the norm) and wanted to do some more research before posting again on the build.

I won't lie, I'm pretty new to this and some of these questions will put a glaring light on that

Regarding the monitors: I've been told that the only way to do SLI in dual screen mode is to get a third video card and plug it in a lesser PCI slot. Gaming will only be able to take place In SLI mode in one screen and the other screen can be used for applications. I was thinking of getting 2 24in Dells, since I plan on doing some level design for upcoming next gen games and some character modelling. Would like to run around in some levels and have the editing programs running at the same time without having to minimize. Looking to possibly feed my cable television through the computer as well. Would the 2 Dell 24in screens be a viable solution. What all do I need to do to make it a reality? The 30in I've seen so far, Dell and Apple seem to have some issues.

Dual Boot....could someone explain to me the ins and outs of this. Was thinking of having Windows Vista Ultimate as my primary and XP as an alternate, to get past the problems with some older software. Obviously one has to trump the other, or so I would assume. Is this even necessary?

I'll post more about the build later on tonight, with a list of parts The more I dig, the more confused I become. Thanks to all those who have given me feedback, it's helped out. Look forward to hearing some more input regarding my first build.
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MOBO: EVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813188009

CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115011

RAM: G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (Model: F2-8000PHU2-2GBHZ)
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820231077

PSU: PC Power and Cooling 1KW Turbo Cool
http://www.pcpower.com/products/view...hp?show=T1KWSR

GFX CARDS: 2 of EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130072

SOUNDCARD: Creative Labs Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum (already purchased) In need of an upgrade?

HARDDRIVES:
2 x Western Digital 150 GB Raptors (already purchased) to be used in RAID 0
2 x Seagate 750GB Barracudas 7200.10
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822148134

CASE: SilverStone TJ-09 Dream Machine Case - Black
http://www.xoxide.com/silverstone-tj09-case-black.html

Was also thinking about the Thermaltake Tai Chi

OPTICAL DRIVES:
Plextor PX-755SA (SATA)
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827249006
HP DVD940I (IDE)
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827140021

MICE: Logitech G5
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16826104191
Logitech MX Revolution
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104015

KEYBOARDS:

Logitech G15
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16823126179
Logitech DiNovo
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...10777#Overview

SPEAKERS:
Logitech Z-5500 Digital
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/pr...CONTENTID=9486

MONITORS:

Leaning towards 2 24 in Dells.

COOLING: Air or Water?

MousePad
Floppy Drive
Backup Drive
Scanner/Printer/Copier Combo
Backup Power
Webcam
Digital Camera
Headphones

Thanks for any and all feedback. Much Appreciated. Going to be needing to make some decisions on all the parts within the next week or two and then start the ordering process
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