Originally Posted by ahilal
I think we figured out what happened with my post.
It's related to some of the other problems with placing your cursor near a quote. Basically, we're supposed to insert a little empty space above and below quote blocks so that your cursor has somewhere to click outside the quote block.
That hasn't been happening the last day, so when you try to place your cursor below the quote block, you're actually placing it just inside it's final closing tag.
I think before I replied to TwoCables I had been playing around with quotes, and I experienced the cursor problem in a slightly different way. I dragged over a quote block from bottom to top and hit delete, but I wasn't quite able to drag over the entire thing, just most of it. The initial opening tag was left behind, and so every part of my post was considered inside a quote container, though it lacked the styling of an actual quote block.
By trying to quote that post, you were quoting a quote. And nested quotes get stripped out past level 2, so there you go.
This and several other things are being significantly tightened up in a release that's going out pretty much right now.
Later tonight we should be able to retest a lot of this stuff and see better results. Hang tight. And thanks again for all the feedback.
Next time, just do Ctrl+A and press Delete. :)
Anyway, here's what I feel it needs to be like:
- Click Quote
- Begin typing
- Click Quote
- Click underneath the Quote block
- Press Enter to have some white space above my text
- Begin typing
In other words, in the first one above that has just two points or steps, the cursor should be automatically placed below the quote block with a hard return so that there is some white space above the text such as with what I have here in this post. Below is a sample without a hard return to show the difference:
This is a sample post.
Here's more text to make it a little bigger,
...and some more to make it about the usual size for most short posts.
Now, here's my sample reply with very little white space above (no hard return). I feel that it's too close; it needs some white space above. Am I alone in thinking this way? I think the reason I like having a hard return for white space above is, this is the way it was when we had vBulletin (I think). I know, I'm asking for everything to be more like vBulletin, but I won't lie: I would much rather have the latest version of vBulletin than Huddler. I'm on another message board (I can't to say which one) that has the latest version of vBulletin, and it's fantastic. There's even an Auto-Save feature that works automatically; you don't have to toggle it on or off. That way, if something happens in the middle of your post, then you won't lose absolutely everything that you've typed. It works exactly the same as Auto-Save in Microsoft Word. Another nice thing is, all of their toolbar buttons are always visible. They don't have a collapsed and expanded toolbar. :P Now that I've experienced having a collapsed and expanded toolbar feature, I prefer not having it because it just gets in the way.
So anyway, this is really just my 2 cents, but I hope that it can be treated as a much bigger contribution because I am confident that everyone would like and appreciate these changes (that I consider to be improvements).
On an unrelated note, is there a list of keyboard shortcuts somewhere for the editor?
Also, from Post #31: can you use Courier New instead?
Finally, I want to repeat this in an isolated part of my post just to make sure it's not lost. Plus, I want to say a few extra things: I feel that it would be better to not have a collapsed mode and an expanded mode, but instead to always have all of the toolbar items available. Some people might be confused and have no idea that there's a "More" link (some people might see it but not know what it is and never click it to find out). Not only that, but it's much less convenient for people like me who do not like the editor's custom context menu yet I frequently need many of the toolbar buttons that are in the expanded toolbar. I have already grown tired of needing to click More and then needing to remember to click Less because I don't want that custom context menu. I have honestly reached a point where I see no benefit to having a collapsed version and an expanded version. It's less convenient. We didn't have anything like this when we had vBulletin and it was nice. Very nice.
Edited by TwoCables - 9/6/13 at 11:03am