Originally Posted by iamhollywood5
I dont understand why AMD is abandoning pure CPUs and going all APU... I mean APUs are great for low-end gaming systems or just general purpose PCs. I have one in the office PC I built this summer, and it serves its purpose well at an extremely good price. But come on, we still need enthusiast CPUs and AMD is apparently just throwing in the white flag and handing Intel a total monopoly on the enthusiast CPU market.
It doesn't make sense to me why AMD, a producer of a very wide range of discrete GPUs, would abandon GPU-less CPU dies. If I already have a discrete GPU or plan to build the rest of my system around one, when it comes to looking for CPUs, I'm more inclined to seek out a GPU-less, pure CPU chip. Why? Because if a die has an IGP, the price of the transistors, silicon, and the research+development of the IGP is factored into the cost of the chip. Since I will never even once use the IGP portion of the die, that's a waste of money and silicon die space for me. With the FX CPUs, while they lacked badly in single-thread performance, at least I knew I wasn't paying extra for parts of the chip I'd never use, and I was getting something in return for every dollar spent on the CPU.
When I bought my i5 3570K, I knew that the insignificant Intel HD 3000 IGP didn't really add much cost to the CPU, I still wished they offered a GPU-less version for a little lower cost. Still, it's not so bad considering the chip is predominantly a CPU with a little added bonus instead of a half-and-half chip. With APUs, AMD tries to scale the power of the GPU with the CPU so they equally matched up and one doesn't bottleneck the other. This means if they come out with an 8-core APU with great single-thread performance, it must be paired with an equally-powered GPU, which by itself will also cost quite a bit.
Buyers of a top-line APU will lose interest in discrete graphics, effectively shrinking the discrete GPU market, in which AMD is obviously heavily involved in, so they are kind of shooting themselves in the foot here, especially considering the fact that it's highly unlikely the CPU-portion of their high-end APUs will ever catch up to Intel's i7/i5 (or whatever they're called in 2015) CPUs, and then AMD loses on both fronts. It just really makes no sense to me for AMD to go all-APU from this point on... It also makes me scared of what Intel is going to do with its enthusiast-CPU monopoly...