Originally Posted by lacrossewacker
Other than photosthop/ rendering / encoding, etc.... what else would need to be off-loaded to the GPU?
I mean, it's not lithe the CPU has been the issue all this time. For MOST of the people purchasing computers for home use/ work related use/ college note taking, there's really no need for GPU acceleration...
so why does any of this matter except to the few that anything to benefit?
My parent's computer has an old i7-860 in it. Whether or not I put a 4770k @ 5ghz in there, or just an i3-3220 in it, it wouldn't make a difference. Photos would load the same, Tax Turbo would function the same, IE/Chrome would still behave the same, MS Office would still be the same, and Windows would still feel the same. What would hUMA do for them? SSD's are the only thing recently that really impact how your PC feels.
I'm just trying to see what's so great about hUMA if it doesn't benefit what most basic users do already.Also, how would they expect to get the power of an i7 and the brute force of a 780/Titan all into one APU? Are we expected to purchase weak little APU's and hope that the power of hUMA and AMD's marketing team somehow extracts unrealistic power from them?
hUMA just sounds as useful as Cuda....which is only for specialized tasks
PS: Genuinely asking this question, not trying to just bash on it because it has "AMD" in the title
I'm sure your parents don't need this, as well as mine, but I'm also sure they wouldn't mind some kind of VR 3D goodness.
And I'm pretty sure you, as well as me, wouldn't mind headshootting everybody in a holo setup with studio quality aural projection.
Why would we need this paradigm?'Cause it's the way to go. If you operate under the assumption that the visual/computing ecosystem is gonna stay the same from now(think about future holoprojection, aural projection, 3D/VR, servers, game, engines, etc), you will be wrong. Technology drives innovation just as well as innovation drives technology, so you should think there sure are things in multitude of labs and R&D departments that don't see the light because there isn't a technology available to kick them blind. You can't comercialize what your customers can't play with. And I still am all in for new tasty toys after 28 years.
We need more horsepower BUT more efficient and specialized, we've been just bruteforcing almost everything for quite some time. Why won't AMD be able to squeeze a i7-Titan equivalent into a die, given the time and the R&D?Why won't Nvidia, or Intel?That's just diminishing them for the sake of controversy, me thinks. A Titan die would have been as huge as your living room table...probably
...in 3D accelerator's time. Look where we are now.
It will be useful as soon as a)there are workloads that need all that, and b)there are programs that support it. Workloads like games, for example. That need it now. You just can't serialize or parallelize every piece of code, you have to mind what's that code function and put it where it belongs. If you don't, you're just unoptimizing and creating a mess, a HUGE BOTTLENECK...like we don't have many of those already...but soon to change. Why would you put your TV inside the swimming pool?You can't see Oprah in the swimming pool n1gga. Put it in your living room.
For sure all this hardware integration and its software support isn't still in it's optimum capacity(beggining...)but that will change. Unless people irationally decide they want to stay where they are instead of positive progress...or, as I could say, five-legged horses instead of cars.
Think about Tim Sweeney, despite being a genius and one of the few capable of building such complex engines and make them "easy" for dumbs, think he's talking like a PR. He's representing his product and his customers, so you must be alert 'cause he's trying to sell you the notion that all this jingo lingo(which, no matter what flavor you choose, all comes to integration)is somewhat difficult for programmers to grasp. Like what they learned in college is still standard and valid and they don't have to recycle since they jumped into the "IMA ENGINEER" steamer. Whose are his customers?Mainly the publishers, 'cause most developers wouldn't be able to find a bed of their own to lay their head if they were dying. So the publishers and developers. Publishers are greedy, and developers are lazy, big news. People with enough knowledge how to task and compile in multithreaded environments(still after more than 10 years since multicore/multithread inception!) get six figures, so that's a plus for publishers/developers to get and make things more streamlined OR easy as hell. UE is as streamlined as an engine can be, which is a plus for many. Less code hours, less hassle, more functionality with just the press of a button.
To my short understanding, what Tim Sweeney and many lazy ass developers voicing the same type of boring concern since the dawn of time are telling us is "Where's my Big Red Button with the letters DCA written on it, AMD?"
...DCA being "Do Crap Automatically" Edited by Nonehxc - 8/28/13 at 4:00pm