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At my resolution I can max out the game with MSAA at 4x with 60+ fps. Game looks beautiful. The tessellation effects are remarkable too.

If your PC is using the 650ti in your sig, then that's probably not completely accurate, even at the ~720p res you're running.

I'm not talking about getting it to 60 FPS every now and then, i'm talking about having 60 FPS minimum.
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If your PC is using the 650ti in your sig, then that's probably not completely accurate, even at the ~720p res you're running.

I'm not talking about getting it to 60 FPS every now and then, i'm talking about having 60 FPS minimum.
My minimum was 48fps. Played for half an hour and ran fraps benchmark. Maximum was 75fps, minimum was 48fps and avg was 63fps.
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My GTX 670 makes me feel outdated already. A 760 performs better than a 670? Since when?
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Getting 120 fps, i think, with 2x670 ultra setting with fxaa. Gpu usage peaks at 85-95
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If we take the 920 reported performance at face value and call 8350 garbage, what can we say about the 3930k then-it is just 1 fps ahead, matched by a puny i3.

That i3 has the same per core, per clock, performance of the 3930k.

If the game isn't threaded well enough to take advantage of more cores, there is little reason for the 3930k to be faster.
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If ithe game liked IPC, 3930k should be way ahead, since it is sandy vs nehalem.

IPC isn't the same for all tasks. AES encryption/decryption has exactly the same IPC on my Gulftown as it does on my SB-E. Some other programs also show no difference, while the majority show a moderate difference, and a minority a massive difference.
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Same if it liked clockspeeds (2.66 vs 3.2 base,although real difference must be smaller due to turbo), same if it was about the core count/threads (6/12 vs 4/8).

If both processors are stock, the difference is likely larger, not smaller since the 3930k has more turbo multipliers.
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There is absolutely no excuse for those two processors to be so near each other, that's the problem with this graph.

Other than a GPU limitation, of course.

I do agree that the results look a bit off, especially considering the graphs just below that do not show a real GPU limitation starting until somewhere between 3 and 3.5GHz on a processor that typically has superior IPC. Going by those results, the 3930k should be faster than the 920 by a wider margin than shown here.

It is bizarre and I hesitate to take these results at face value.
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The single core performance of the i3 is at a healthy distance from the i5 and i7.

No it's not. An i3 of the same generation has exactly the same cores as an i5 or i7, and at the same clock speed will perform almost identically per core.
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That is exactly my concern.
How can the phenom x4 980 be slower than the FX 4100 when is faster compared to this chip in both single and multi thread?

The Phenom II is older and lacks certain enhancements and instruction sets.

There are also certain to be cases where one of the oft mentioned disadvantage of the module design can actually help performance. Two cores in the same module have vastly superior intra-core bandwidth than those outside, and even between modules, Bulldozer is faster than Phenom II by a wide margin, in this respect.

Again, this goes back to IPC not being some fixed, universally applicable, feature. It's relative to the task at hand.
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The Phenom II is older and lacks certain enhancements and instruction sets.

There are also certain to be cases where one of the oft mentioned disadvantage of the module design can actually help performance. Two cores in the same module have vastly superior intra-core bandwidth than those outside, and even between modules, Bulldozer is faster than Phenom II by a wide margin, in this respect.

Again, this goes back to IPC not being some fixed, universally applicable, feature. It's relative to the task at hand.

Exactly ! It looks like game is utilizing SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2 or other similar 128 bit instructions which Phenom II doesn't have. May be this is why i7 920 is still a king of its era. Also Phenom II's inner core bandwidth is the worst while i7 920 has many times higher.
This has totally cleared how Phenom II performed worse. No Problem.

What really confusing me is how a 4.5 years older 2.66 GHz Nehalam architecture can perform almost equal to these latest 3.2+ GHz 32nm i7s with a highest end GPU of this generation while those older chipsets didn't even have PCIe 3.0. This really looks fake to me. If it was about 78xx or 7950 then it might have looked okay but this is about Titan.

Or the compiler used to compile this game must have been built and optimized specifically for Nehalem's SIMD instructions at that time. (leaving an evidence that they used an older compiler with much less multithreading support considering game is only utilizing upto only dual core.)
What we are seeing i7 920 is the fastest CPU in this game per clock because even latest i7 4770k at 2.5 GHz is 15 fps slower than i7 920 at 2.66 GHz..

All this things makes me extremely eager to know more about what compilers are being used for games. Can't we get some more information about it from anywhere ? smile.gif
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from the videosettings.ini looks like the game checked my hardware and gave it the most fit settings

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[SystemValidation]
cpuCoreCount=6
cpuScoreBandwidth=1386.4751
winSATVideoScore=114.8000
winSATConfidenceLevel=0.6431
gpuFamily=FAMILY_UNKNOWN
gpuFamilyScore=4
recommendedGraphicsQuality=2
cpu= Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3960X CPU @ 3.30GHz - 1 6 6
post #58 of 90
You would think that such a taxing game would at least look stellar but the graphics for this game are just average at best. Our expectations for how games should run are being warped by a perceived increase in the release of poorly optimized games.

When I looked at the gameplay videos released for this game, I was expecting it to be much less demanding.
    
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From the results it looks like Nvidia/Intel hardware is favoured.
Backed by Nvidia and only when using Nvidia's HBAO tech
The 7970 beats the 780 and comes close to the Titan in the HBAO disabled bench.
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My GTX 670 makes me feel outdated already. A 760 performs better than a 670? Since when?
The 760 is a GTX 670 with a better pcb design a higher stock clock and higher boost states and faster memory.
It is just a cheap rebrand.
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