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Hello!

If you know me over on TekSyndicate, I'm sure you have heard about my interest in machining my own waterblocks. If you don't, though, which is most likely all of you, then here is what I want to do: make reproducible, high quality, full copper waterblocks, both in with standard versions, and per-request for certain hardware. The blocks themselves would be 100% copper, with optional acrylic faceplates in the future, but to start with, a brushed copper top.

After some discussion over in the Watercooling Gallery and Discussion thread, and some research following it, I have decided that a jet impingement-style block is the best bet in terms of thermal performance, and as for the structure of the actual base-plate the water would be "jetted' onto, you would think that optimum performance would come from optimum surface area, so my idea was to use lots of fins in a checkerboard style, almost like lots of little poles. I know that the less resistance, the better for flow, so how would it be best to balance more "empty space" in the block with the surface area? I obviously can't cram the fins next to each other too close, or the power of the pump (I will be using my DCC with Petra's top as a default for testing flow with) won't be enough to push the water through there.

What else should I look for when designing the block? Functionally, I am leaning for a dedicated inlet and outlet, with no other ports on the block, standard G1/4 threads on them, with a separate, removable, and replaceable faceplate, so, if you want to buy an acrylic top later on, you can replace the "stock" copper one. I feel like I am missing a lot about the mounting system, though. How do I go about making a multi-socket compatible mounting system, and what is the best way to help ensure the block isn't mounted too tightly, and apply possibly damaging force to the motherboard?

In terms of design other than functionality, what should I be looking into aesthetically? I am a fan of raw copper, with a brushed finish, but aside from that, I was thinking about a very clean, almost Mips-style "flat" look, with low profile bolts holding the block together. The copper would distinguish my blocks, is what I'm thinking, but would also drive up the cost to the customer.

Let me know, seeing as I have little to no experience in designing any watercooling hardware, only using it, and even then, my experience is not nearly as extensive as many users here. I come from an electrical engineering background, not much mechanical, and little in thermal physics. Any help would be appreciated smile.gif

For perspective, this is the copper I am starting with, should be enough for 4 or so base plates, if I make one faceplate/mounting system.



Cheers, and have a great day.

-Brennan
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There's an old website where much of the early development of water cooling was done and discussed.

Some reading there may help answer a lot of questions for you ...and lead you to many more questions.

ProCooling

Look for posts by Cather, the "Father" of water cooling.
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Originally Posted by billbartuska View Post

There's an old website where much of the early development of water cooling was done and discussed.

Some reading there may help answer a lot of questions for you ...and lead you to many more questions.

ProCooling

Look for posts by Cather, the "Father" of water cooling.

You can also find Cathar on HF. He posted quite a bit up until about 2008. I had one of his Silver Storm blocks and it was an excellent block. He was ahead of his time.
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Originally Posted by billbartuska View Post

There's an old website where much of the early development of water cooling was done and discussed.

Some reading there may help answer a lot of questions for you ...and lead you to many more questions.

ProCooling

Look for posts by Cather, the "Father" of water cooling.

I had seen some of the blocks he made in my research, the build quality was superb smile.gif

Lots of good information there, but most of the poss are from early 2000s, and in the past 13 years, CPU structure, and cooling needs have changed a lot. It is a good place to start, though. Thanks smile.gif
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Does anyone else have anything to contribute to the design-aspect? I am a going to experiment with different implementations of the jet impingement design this weekend, but I specifics in the design are unknown as of now.
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