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Hi All,

I'm in the process of getting a parts list together for my first HTPC build. My first build at all actually!
I'm stuck working out what I'll need, as there are tons of forums and guides, but none which address my requirements that i have found.

Here's what I need it to do:
- Be quiet. Will be in the living room in home theater setup. Therefore, should also be a nice looking case.
- Play emulator games. PS2, Gamecube, Dreamcast and below. Note, i don't intend to play any modern PC games - I hear Hyperspin may be the way to go with this...
- Run all media i throw at it - ie. 1080p movies, Blu-Ray playback (optional), all my music etc. through XBMC.
- Be quick. Just want to hit the on button, load quickly into XBMC from startup, and configure my iPhone/other remote to have control from there

From the research i've done, i've put together the following as a list of what i might need.
- Case: Silverstone GD05 Black HTPC Case with USB 3.0
- CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K LGA1155
Would something like i3 3220 suffice?
- MBO: ASUS P8B75-M-LX Motherboard
- RAM: G.Skill Ares F3-1600C9D-8GAO 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
Would 4GB Suffice?
- PSU: Thermaltake Litepower 500W Black Edition
- SSD: Samsung 840 Series 120GB SSD Retail Box
- HDD: Western Digital WD Green 3TB WD30EZRX
- Optical: LG CH12LS28 Blu-Ray DVD Combo Drive
Optional. Dont use blu-ray now. Just thinking ahead.
- GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX660 Ti WF2 2GB ---- Necessary??? Not sure...

So here's what i need to know:
- Will all this stuff fit in the case?
- Will it all be compatible?
- Do i need it all to run what i'm planning to?
- Is there anything i'm missing?

I will be running Windows 7 64-bit, as i hear it's best for emulators, and was hoping to use my existing PS3 controller, but will look into getting a XBOX 360 wireless one if it's easier for key mapping.

I have seen a lot of simpler systems in lifehacker articles and whirlpool forums that suggest i may not need this level of specs, but from what i hear, PS2 and Gamecube emulation is quite CPU intensive.
If it's going overboard, please let me know too!!!

Any advice you guys can offer will be hugely appreciated, as i've been going back and forth over this for a few weeks now and am ready to get moving!

Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 9
I've been using the Ivy Bridge i3-3225 with HD4000 graphics on the chip and this works great for HTPC. I'm not a gamer so I can't tell you how it would do with your needs in that regard. It would save you $60-70 over the i5 chip you mention. If you go this route you really don't need a GPU and that will cut down the size of the PSU that you need. I've used both a Seasonic 300 & 360W PSU in HTPCs with no problem. I use the Samsung SSD that you mention in HTPC builds and it boots right up with no problems at all. For an HTPC only build 4GB of RAM is all that's needed. Maybe the 8GB you mention is needed for gaming, hope others can advise you on that.
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XBMC benifits from a dedicated gpu over intergrated, if you do go intergrated it will also borrow system RAM.
the i3 would be plenty for your needs but im no emulator expert and personally id go for the i5 just in case and it will last longer.
Its really up to you with the gpu but even a lower end gpu will be better than intergrated, my old gt220 was an awesome low power htpc gpu. wahts your budget? how much is the 660 Ti for you?

EDIT also i had a WD green in my htpc once and it sucked they have low spin speed (its actually unspecified). i mean a blue or black will be noiser but only when doing major work, my green was actually no quieter than a WD blue i puy in my sisters pc, and the blue won hands down speed wise. just my opinion wink.gif .
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Emulators for more recent systems (meaning PS2 and Wii in this context) can be extremely demanding.

If at all possible, I'd go with a Haswell setup, and the highest clocked i3 or i5 you can budget. They are the only locked parts can can reliably push PCSX2 to full speed.

GPU is less of a concern, but you'd almost certainly want a mid-range or better dedicated part.
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Hi all,

Thanks for the feedback thus far.
I've changed the specs since my last post from some great feedback from here and other forums regarding this.
New specs will be as follows:

CPU: Intel Core i5 4570 LGA1150
MBO: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H LGA1150 Motherboard
Case: Silverstone GD05 Black HTPC - I really like this case!
RAM: G.Skill Ares F3-1600C9D-8GAO 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
PSU: Seasonic P-400 Fanless Platinum 400W V2
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO Series 120GB SSD
HDD: Western Digital Green 2TB - Apparently these run at around 5400rpm - Would there be any issues with reading? Fast enough?
Cooling: Scythe Shuriken Low Profile Cooler Rev B - NecessaryConfused Intel standard CPU too loud?

Any feedback about the above is very much welcomed.
Still not sure about i3 vs. i5... Emulation forums tend to indicate the bigger the better, but no comparison between say i3 3225 and i5 3570.
I've put i5 4570 on LGA 1150 above as it rates with Intel HD 4600 Graphics as standard. Would this eliminate the need for a GPU?

Also, any differences between LGA 1150 and LGA 1155 CPU and MBO?

Thanks in advance!
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personally id still go with discrete gpu, all round smoother experience. Yeah go the i5. The WD green i had was really slow, something called parking. its to save power but really the power difference vs a good hdd is unnoticeable. espescially a media pc when accessing large folders. itll also be better when writing/coping things like movies pics music etc thats my experience anyway.
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Build looks good, though I would squeeze a mid-range GPU in there.
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I play ps2 and gamecube/wii on my pc with a i5 2500k oc to 4.2ghz. . Emulators need a lot of horsepower from the CPU, if you want to play games with higher resolution and AA, you'll need that horsepower

Add a mid range gpu, below 150$, it won't hurt for video playback and the emulator

1150 is for haswell 1155 is for sandy and ivy bridge (different socket)
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Originally Posted by ice-dragoon25 View Post

I play ps2 and gamecube/wii on my pc with a i5 2500k oc to 4.2ghz. . Emulators need a lot of horsepower from the CPU, if you want to play games with higher resolution and AA, you'll need that horsepower

Add a mid range gpu, below 150$, it won't hurt for video playback and the emulator

1150 is for haswell 1155 is for sandy and ivy bridge (different socket)

I read this before also. Emulators use more CPU resources than GPU. If you do choose to get a GPU though, make sure it fits the case. Sometimes it will fit but it will end up blocking a bay or something.
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