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Noppoo choc mini vs Keycool 84 vs KBT race 75%

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Hi guys!

I have some questions understanding keyboards but many websites makes my head not see things very well.

Basically I want the most compact, tenkeyless, mechanical, most light weight pressable, most symmetric and technical best keyboard as possible.

Today, I have tried Keycool and KBT race. The 75% layout is a must, I must have function keys or other keys in top.

I recently saw DSI modular mac keyboard, but not work for windows.

My goal with this thread is to make comparison of the technical specifications of:

Keycool 84

Noppoo Choc mini 84

KBT race keyboard.

I have both the ABS and PBT keycaps selected with various silencer for use and testing.

First:

All 3 keyboards claims to have NRKO, but the KBT race keyboard had another function. When I press and hold 2 keys, e.g "f" and "g", it would repeat them like "fgfgfgfgfgfgfgfgfgfg", but if I use keycool 84, it would repeat like "fggggggggg" Does noppoo choc mini have "NRKO", which can repeat multiple keys when held down? Also, the KBT race only has the ability to register 6 keys at a time, whereas keycool has unlimited. However that is not useful to me becuase I use only 5 fingers on keyboard when I work.

I currently use keycool 84 because I like the placement of the function keys, linear, vertically directly above the number keys, instead of slightly diagonally.

This brings me to the inevitable conclusion that the noppoo choc mini is almost identical to keycool 84, but might have a better NRKO (for example repeating) as well as build quality. I do like if the keyboard is a bit more soundy so I have a better feeling of how much force i put into keys, and I would also prefer to know if there are stabilizing/build differneces between keycool and noppoo choc in terms of the pressing effect: how fast and soundy it gets.

Thank you.
post #2 of 7
I understand your issues.. but you seem to have forgotten a few kkeyboards... http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=special&filter=spacesaver


Also before you blow so much money on one of these I suggest getting your hands on an IBM model M for 30-50$ I was gonna get a toopre but am please with my model M

Someone has the excessivey huge one as a freebie in marketplace..
You can also mod IBM model Ms to tenkeyless if you have the knowhow
I understand you may not like to hear that but its a great keyboard and as it is ps/2 it is fully NKRO


Also you might want to look for something with green switches for noise and feedback clears are also good same with browns but clears and greens have better feedback imo. blues also claim tactility and clicky function but they felt wierd to mewhen it tried them out they have 2 very specific forms of feed back which I didn't enjoy

http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide/0_100

will tell you better about all the standard switches

That race sounds interesting but ducky shine 3 is out or is coming out might be worth looking into.

Also I can't really think of any time I have every had an issue with nkro. and I game alot but model m or ps2 still do ghuhhuhjjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjjjjjjjjjjjjjdfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhu[jippppppjiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiijiiiii'0[io[pjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjyugooooooooooooutuuuuuuuuooooooooooooooooooooouqi hmm they have a wierd nkrpo sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt depending on how many and which keys they pprobably do x amount of keys per lane and you just have to hope 2 arent on the same lane


greens are like clear and brown but they push back after actuation A TON which is which I like the sound of them. Clears are "a more tactile/stiffer brown"

that page has force diagrams and for whatever you cant find there google does


this is probably the best tenkeyless http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400bn they make noise too
If i was buying one It would be that a realforece or leupold

but at looking at that price tag is when I personally decided I would get my own model M and paint it... And maybe tenkeyless mod if I can find a thread. there was one but its deadlink. Vinyl dye does keys good if you clean it properly and allow it to dry/cure.. All I am saying with an IBM model M is its worth 30-50$ to experiment with
Edited by tatmMRKIV - 8/29/13 at 11:40am
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Thanks for answer
post #4 of 7
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I read a comment here about Noppoo choc mini (comment number 2):

http://www.amazon.com/Noppoo-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-Cherry-Switches/dp/B00A45WK4U

It states:

"Most keyboards don't have usb n-key rollover because the protocol was shortsightedly made without it. This keyboard gets around it by having a virtual usb hub with multiple virtual keyboards. This doesn't work very well with macs because they treat keyboard layout individually per board rather than system wide. There is either a driver online or you could use a less than ten dollar usb > ps2 > usb adapter. I don't see this as a problem against the rating because they never implied full macintosh compatibility."

Does this mean if I hold multiple keys simultaneously its gonna do "dsgfdsgfdsgfdsgfdsgfdsgfdsgf" instaed of "dsgffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff"?

Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Theobeo View Post

Does this mean if I hold multiple keys simultaneously its gonna do "dsgfdsgfdsgfdsgfdsgfdsgfdsgf" instaed of "dsgffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff"?

My Noppoo TANK with their N-Key rollover system goes dsfggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

My Das Keyboard with 6-key rollover goes sdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgfsdgf
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Whats a noppoo tank?
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It's the opposite of a Noppoo Choc Mini-- instead of being small, it's big. Same brand, different model.
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