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So Ive started with a Blackhawk Ultra case, I already love it and I havent even put anything inside of it yet.

Going to be throwing a 4770k, msi z88 gd65, havent decided on what gpu yet tho, either a msi 760 770 or 780

I want to do this rig water cooled, but havent decided whether or not to just go with a X60, or do something customish

I was thinking it would be sick to get a rad for the 2x230mm case fans on top, take the side panel 230mm off, buy a 4th and run a push pull config with them, and get 9x 120mm fans for the side, a extra 120 behind the drive bays, and potentially 2x140 or 1x230mm fan at the bottom of the case

or go something absurd like triple 360 rads push pull on the side of the case, but then again I know nothing about custom loops and whats best, whats overkill and whats pointless


In the future id like to watercool the gpu and ram, but tbh I dont find those pressing need atm

note: i cant seem to find the rosewill 230 case fans for sale, i even searched the model number on google, was thinking of contacting rosewill
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Hi 4saknhero,

I've just recently completed watercooling in my rig and looks the business. One thing I remembered when i was putting it in together. Keep it simple. Only cool what you need then down the road cool the other components if required. Thats quite alot of fans you,ll be running, i assume you,ll add a fan controller also? Sounds like you'd need two of them with that many fans.

Radiators:

Generally i went with a single radiator for just the CPU only. It all depends on what your cooling and what the case can accomodiate. Im guessing your going to do both GPU and CPU. Single triple rad should suffice, use the fans for system cooling.

CPU Blocks,

All are very good, XSPC, EK, to name a few have very good blocks, there are other makes out there. Always read reviews, get a good rough idea what kind of performance you may get. I get excellent results with XSPC Raystorm.

Tubing

Be very careful with tubing, you need to choose the correct tubing with the correct fittings. 7/16 to 5/8 is quite common, doesnt kink very much, just make sure when you cut the tubing, cut longer than required length, so you can trim back. Lots of colours to choose from.

Pumps

Look at flow rate and head room. Liang D5 and Swiftech pumps are very good. I went with phobya as its on a budget end, and it does a very nice job for a single loop.

Coolant

Mayhems very good, also Feser. Dye is optional, i went with UV clear premix with no dye. Glows blue under UV lights.

Res
Again its dependant on if you want a single bay res or a dual one? Or tube, it does vary in price and makes. Some come with a combined pump, but can cost more dependant on make.

Fan controllers

I read recently more channels the better, also the wattage the controller can deliver as well to look out for. I'm currently shopping for one at the moment, also depends if you want automatic or manual control? Cost again comes into play on the various features.

Overall if planned right and got the right parts, it,ll look the business. Definately worth it overall. Oh yeah dont forget to leak and bleed test it. They say 24 hours to leak test it, it varies between each guide. Oh if you have a seperate power supply, use that and buy a jumper to put on the 24pin, so it can start up without risk the components. Dont use the one in the case if you can avoid it. Once the tubing is set, make sure you fill the res up first before switching on, pump needs water otherwise a burning smell may appear.

Good Luck!
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is there rads for 2x230mm fans? i cant seem to find any
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I'm not 100% sure, i know you can get 120mm, 140mm, i think 180mm is the biggest you can go, unless im mistaken?
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Originally Posted by Spectre21 View Post

I'm not 100% sure, i know you can get 120mm, 140mm, i think 180mm is the biggest you can go, unless im mistaken?

I think the Phobya Xtreme 400 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14803/ is one of the biggest you can get. I have the Xtreme 200 (pic below) and it gives Xtreme cooling performance even with just the 2 x Coolermaster Megaflows. If I had space in my case I would have an Xtreme 400 + 2 Phobya 200mm Plexi Shrouds and 2 x CM Megaflows either side.

OP; watercooling your GPU is one of the best upgrades you ca do! With air cooling my GTX 690 hit 80 degrees on Unigine Valley benchmark but watercooled 45 degrees is the maximum.

post #6 of 8
I've never seen a 2x230 rad and i think it's because of the air pressure. a 230 fan is not good to push or pull air throw the rad.
I thin you better go with a 420 in your case
And watercooling the ram is pointless exept if you're making extreme overclock on the ram. the modo would be better to watercooled.
Hope you the best for your build smile.gif
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After a few years on internal rads, I went with a MO-RA 360LT external rad, also have a 240 in the case. At full load my gpu's are at 42c/39c after 36 hours of folding. It's just a option to think about.
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Alright so using the 230s are out, thanks

and im planning on water cooling the gpu eventually (probably a few weeks or so after I have everything done)

I was playing with the idea of running a rad off the 9x120 side panel fans, I assume a radiator this size would be plenty sufficient for gpu+cpu cooling, but this leads to a couple questions, assuming a strong pump is needed for pushing water through a rad this size, whats suggested (i was thinking about getting a xspc kit, and a xspc gpu block for eventual gpu cooling....and also which 9x120 rad would be good, would there be much of a difference in temps between different thicknesses and fpi's? (i know how increased air restrictions I would need fans with a higher static pressure I.E corsair sp120s are really good for this) but if a dense radiators isnt needed I can cheap out for standard rosewill red led case fans, and possibly go 9x120 push-pull for the lols

if the above is just plain silly and a waste of money, which rad set up would be best for me? I seen a 420 was suggested
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