Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › Cooler Master / Alphacool Eisberg Owners Club
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Cooler Master / Alphacool Eisberg Owners Club - Page 59

post #581 of 777
The new version is here, I wonder if it will fit on a Corsair HG10
http://www.coolingtechnique.com/news/liquid-cooling/waterblock/1615-da-alphacool-i-nuovi-aio-eisbaer-e-matrici-di-scambio-termico-eisblock.html

You might have to change the language to English to read article
FX Klasse
(25 items)
 
Warrior King
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8350 SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 MSI R9 290X Lightning MSI R9 290X Lightning 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
Corsair  Corsair  g.skill sniper gaming series 16gb 2400mhz ddr3 WD 1 TB  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD 320 GB OCZ vertex 3 64GB Samsung 840 Pro 128GB Seagate 250 GB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial MX300 525 GB Samsung SH-S223L Cooler Master Glacer 240l Windows 8.1 Pro N 64 bit 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit AOC 2462w Lenovo L2261wA Razer Lycosa 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec HCG 750 Rosewill Future corsair vengeance m65 Turtle Beach Montego DDL 
Other
Altec Lansing ADA 995 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 5775c Asus Z97 Deluxe Iris Pro 6200 G. Skill Trident X 2400 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
WD Blue 320 Crucial MX300 525GB Cooler master hyper 212 Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
AOC 24 Steelseries Apex 350 Antec truepower trio 550w Corsair M65 
Mouse Pad
AMD Red Team Swag 
  hide details  
Reply
FX Klasse
(25 items)
 
Warrior King
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8350 SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 MSI R9 290X Lightning MSI R9 290X Lightning 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
Corsair  Corsair  g.skill sniper gaming series 16gb 2400mhz ddr3 WD 1 TB  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD 320 GB OCZ vertex 3 64GB Samsung 840 Pro 128GB Seagate 250 GB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial MX300 525 GB Samsung SH-S223L Cooler Master Glacer 240l Windows 8.1 Pro N 64 bit 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit AOC 2462w Lenovo L2261wA Razer Lycosa 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec HCG 750 Rosewill Future corsair vengeance m65 Turtle Beach Montego DDL 
Other
Altec Lansing ADA 995 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 5775c Asus Z97 Deluxe Iris Pro 6200 G. Skill Trident X 2400 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
WD Blue 320 Crucial MX300 525GB Cooler master hyper 212 Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
AOC 24 Steelseries Apex 350 Antec truepower trio 550w Corsair M65 
Mouse Pad
AMD Red Team Swag 
  hide details  
Reply
post #582 of 777
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Dude View Post

Using a fan header is not a good idea, you can ruin your mobo because the headers aren't designed to provide the required power.

If everything is going well I can finally get my system running tomorrow and will take a look how the pump sounds and perform at 5 and 7 volts

Nice one.
That's interesting. I never thought about that, or never realised it was an issue.
I wonder why they give a fan header connection on it then? Maybe for a fan controller? The instructions that come with it are seriously lacking..

Anyway..
Maybe that's why one of my cpu headers has been acting funny for the last few days.. Speedfan isn't reading pwm speeds from it any more, while Hardware monitor still does..
post #583 of 777
Quote:
Originally Posted by gijoe50000 View Post

So.. I got one of these and the pump is really loud and annoying.
Anybody got any ideas on how to make it quieter?

I tried plugging it in to a fan header but the pump shuts off when I get to desktop after startup. I had to manually ramp it up in Speedfan to get it going. It's scary, waiting for Speedfan to load up completely, and watching my cpu temp climbing to 40c ->60c -> 70c and no pump going!

The pump starts to get noisy when it gets above ~43%-48% I'm assuming thats ~5V, above that it just gets louder and higher pitched. The 7v molex is also too loud. And the 12v is just crazy!

At the moment I have it plugged into the fan controller on my Storm Stryker, which seems the best solution at the moment but the fan controller is weird, it makes, like, a pulsating hum like it's alternating speed about once a second. (Maybe a cheap capacitor in the RC circuit or something.)

I'm thinking the pump needs a minimum of ~7v to start but then it will run at 5v after that. But I can't find a reliable way to accomplish this. It would be nice to run it at 5v through the fan header. Or somehow disassemble it and make it quieter at 7v.

Anyone in a similar situation?
solved it?
thoughts?

You can run at 5V just using a molex adapter. Myne ran fine at 5V.

I've since got a zalman fan mate 2 which allows good control of the speed. I have myne running around 2400rpm I think which isn't audible but then my PC is in the living room so I'm generally sat at least a couple of metres away from it.
undertvpc
(16 items)
 
Taichi 31
(1 item)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790 @ 4GHz MSI B85I m-ITX Powercolor R9 290 2*4GB Kingston KVR16N11 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB 2.5" Toshiba Hybrid Drive 120GB Kingston SSDNow V300 Teac BDrom XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK FC GPU block Alphacool DC-LT Pump/top/res combo Alphacool ST30 360mm Rad 3* Enermax Twister Pressure 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Rapoo e6700 Bluetooth with touchpad Silverstone SX550 Silverstone RVZ02 ATC Speaker and Amp ;) 
CPU
i5 3317u 
  hide details  
Reply
undertvpc
(16 items)
 
Taichi 31
(1 item)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790 @ 4GHz MSI B85I m-ITX Powercolor R9 290 2*4GB Kingston KVR16N11 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB 2.5" Toshiba Hybrid Drive 120GB Kingston SSDNow V300 Teac BDrom XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK FC GPU block Alphacool DC-LT Pump/top/res combo Alphacool ST30 360mm Rad 3* Enermax Twister Pressure 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Rapoo e6700 Bluetooth with touchpad Silverstone SX550 Silverstone RVZ02 ATC Speaker and Amp ;) 
CPU
i5 3317u 
  hide details  
Reply
post #584 of 777
Quote:
Originally Posted by diggiddi View Post

The new version is here, I wonder if it will fit on a Corsair HG10
http://www.coolingtechnique.com/news/liquid-cooling/waterblock/1615-da-alphacool-i-nuovi-aio-eisbaer-e-matrici-di-scambio-termico-eisblock.html

You might have to change the language to English to read article

Nice.

The new pump looks very similar to the DC-LT. Will be happy if they are interchangeable.
undertvpc
(16 items)
 
Taichi 31
(1 item)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790 @ 4GHz MSI B85I m-ITX Powercolor R9 290 2*4GB Kingston KVR16N11 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB 2.5" Toshiba Hybrid Drive 120GB Kingston SSDNow V300 Teac BDrom XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK FC GPU block Alphacool DC-LT Pump/top/res combo Alphacool ST30 360mm Rad 3* Enermax Twister Pressure 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Rapoo e6700 Bluetooth with touchpad Silverstone SX550 Silverstone RVZ02 ATC Speaker and Amp ;) 
CPU
i5 3317u 
  hide details  
Reply
undertvpc
(16 items)
 
Taichi 31
(1 item)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790 @ 4GHz MSI B85I m-ITX Powercolor R9 290 2*4GB Kingston KVR16N11 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB 2.5" Toshiba Hybrid Drive 120GB Kingston SSDNow V300 Teac BDrom XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK FC GPU block Alphacool DC-LT Pump/top/res combo Alphacool ST30 360mm Rad 3* Enermax Twister Pressure 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Rapoo e6700 Bluetooth with touchpad Silverstone SX550 Silverstone RVZ02 ATC Speaker and Amp ;) 
CPU
i5 3317u 
  hide details  
Reply
post #585 of 777
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gijoe50000 View Post

Nice one.
That's interesting. I never thought about that, or never realised it was an issue.
I wonder why they give a fan header connection on it then? Maybe for a fan controller? The instructions that come with it are seriously lacking..

Anyway..
Maybe that's why one of my cpu headers has been acting funny for the last few days.. Speedfan isn't reading pwm speeds from it any more, while Hardware monitor still does..

You can run your pump off a 3 pin/ 4 pin motherboard fan header without any issues. I have been running mine from a fan header since I got it.

The pump should not be shutting off when you system starts. Did you decrease the pump RPM in BIOS?
Z170 Build
(20 items)
 
Z68 Build
(20 items)
 
Lenovo T430
(14 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I7 6700K @ 4.5ghz  Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 6 XFX R9 290x 8GB XFX R9 290x 8GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Gskill RipJaws V 16GB 3000mhz Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 2TB EK-Supremacy EVO CPU Water Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK R9 290X GPU Waterblocks EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM Pump Alphacool NexXxoS 360mm ST30 Alphacool NexXxoS 240mm ST30 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Alphacool NexXxoS 120mm ST30 Cooler Master Jetflo 120mm Fans Windows 10  LG 34UC88 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Quickfire TK red switch Cooler Master V1000 MasterCase Pro 5 CM Storm Havoc 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I5 2500K @ 4.6ghz  ASRock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 ASUS 7870 Ghz Edition ASUS 7870 Ghz Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Gskill RipJaws X 16GB 1600mhz Seagate 2TB Seagate 320GB ASUS Burner 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Cooler Master Eisberg 240L + 120mm Rad Koolance 3/8 x 1/2 Compression Fittings PrimoChill Advanced LRT Windows 7  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Ubuntu 12.04 ASUS 24" Cooler Master Quickfire TK  Cooler Master V1000 
CaseMouse
Cooler Master HAF 932 Black Edition Cooler Master Havoc 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i5-3210M  Intel HD Graphics 4000 Gskill 16GB 1600mhz  Crucial MX200 256GB 
Hard DriveOSOSMonitor
Seagate 320GB Ubuntu 16.04 Windows 10 1600x900 
  hide details  
Reply
Z170 Build
(20 items)
 
Z68 Build
(20 items)
 
Lenovo T430
(14 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I7 6700K @ 4.5ghz  Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 6 XFX R9 290x 8GB XFX R9 290x 8GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Gskill RipJaws V 16GB 3000mhz Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 2TB EK-Supremacy EVO CPU Water Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK R9 290X GPU Waterblocks EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 PWM Pump Alphacool NexXxoS 360mm ST30 Alphacool NexXxoS 240mm ST30 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Alphacool NexXxoS 120mm ST30 Cooler Master Jetflo 120mm Fans Windows 10  LG 34UC88 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Quickfire TK red switch Cooler Master V1000 MasterCase Pro 5 CM Storm Havoc 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I5 2500K @ 4.6ghz  ASRock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 ASUS 7870 Ghz Edition ASUS 7870 Ghz Edition 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Gskill RipJaws X 16GB 1600mhz Seagate 2TB Seagate 320GB ASUS Burner 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Cooler Master Eisberg 240L + 120mm Rad Koolance 3/8 x 1/2 Compression Fittings PrimoChill Advanced LRT Windows 7  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Ubuntu 12.04 ASUS 24" Cooler Master Quickfire TK  Cooler Master V1000 
CaseMouse
Cooler Master HAF 932 Black Edition Cooler Master Havoc 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i5-3210M  Intel HD Graphics 4000 Gskill 16GB 1600mhz  Crucial MX200 256GB 
Hard DriveOSOSMonitor
Seagate 320GB Ubuntu 16.04 Windows 10 1600x900 
  hide details  
Reply
post #586 of 777
Quote:
Originally Posted by gijoe50000 View Post

Nice one.
That's interesting. I never thought about that, or never realised it was an issue.
I wonder why they give a fan header connection on it then? Maybe for a fan controller? The instructions that come with it are seriously lacking..

Anyway..
Maybe that's why one of my cpu headers has been acting funny for the last few days.. Speedfan isn't reading pwm speeds from it any more, while Hardware monitor still does..

AFAIR, there was a small note inside which stated, that you shouldn't use a fan header. I read somewhere, that the eisberg needs about 23 W in this case this is way to much for a fan header.
post #587 of 777
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Dude View Post

AFAIR, there was a small note inside which stated, that you shouldn't use a fan header. I read somewhere, that the eisberg needs about 23 W in this case this is way to much for a fan header.

THIS.

Eisbergs should not be run on motherboard fan headers at all please reconnect to the psu to avoid damage to your system.
Reply
Reply
post #588 of 777
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky 23 View Post

You can run your pump off a 3 pin/ 4 pin motherboard fan header without any issues. I have been running mine from a fan header since I got it.


The pump should not be shutting off when you system starts. Did you decrease the pump RPM in BIOS?

Think it messed up my cpu fan header, it's gone bonkers! Sometimes it reads rpms now, sometimes it doesn't. It wasn't the bios that was the problem as I could hear the pump at startup, it was when the speedfan started the pump would quit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bichael View Post

You can run at 5V just using a molex adapter. Myne ran fine at 5V.

I've since got a zalman fan mate 2 which allows good control of the speed. I have myne running around 2400rpm I think which isn't audible but then my PC is in the living room so I'm generally sat at least a couple of metres away from it.

I might switch the wires and try out 5v instead and see if it works. If I remember correctly it's the 12v for power and the 7v for ground isn't it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AT-Pascal View Post

THIS.

Eisbergs should not be run on motherboard fan headers at all please reconnect to the psu to avoid damage to your system.

I have already. But the 7v is just as loud as the 12v except the pitch is different.. It drives me crazy!

I thought there was supposed to be a 5v connector that came with it, but it's only a 7v and a 12v..
post #589 of 777
Quote:
Originally Posted by gijoe50000 View Post


I might switch the wires and try out 5v instead and see if it works. If I remember correctly it's the 12v for power and the 7v for ground isn't it?

Red is 5V on the molex so just use that with one of the black grounds. May be tricky to swap wires depending on the adapter. I have previously just jammed one in upside down (as the 12V and 5V are on each end).

7V is the tricky one as you have to split the difference between 12 and 5.
undertvpc
(16 items)
 
Taichi 31
(1 item)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790 @ 4GHz MSI B85I m-ITX Powercolor R9 290 2*4GB Kingston KVR16N11 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB 2.5" Toshiba Hybrid Drive 120GB Kingston SSDNow V300 Teac BDrom XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK FC GPU block Alphacool DC-LT Pump/top/res combo Alphacool ST30 360mm Rad 3* Enermax Twister Pressure 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Rapoo e6700 Bluetooth with touchpad Silverstone SX550 Silverstone RVZ02 ATC Speaker and Amp ;) 
CPU
i5 3317u 
  hide details  
Reply
undertvpc
(16 items)
 
Taichi 31
(1 item)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790 @ 4GHz MSI B85I m-ITX Powercolor R9 290 2*4GB Kingston KVR16N11 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB 2.5" Toshiba Hybrid Drive 120GB Kingston SSDNow V300 Teac BDrom XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK FC GPU block Alphacool DC-LT Pump/top/res combo Alphacool ST30 360mm Rad 3* Enermax Twister Pressure 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Rapoo e6700 Bluetooth with touchpad Silverstone SX550 Silverstone RVZ02 ATC Speaker and Amp ;) 
CPU
i5 3317u 
  hide details  
Reply
post #590 of 777
Quote:
Originally Posted by bichael View Post

Red is 5V on the molex so just use that with one of the black grounds. May be tricky to swap wires depending on the adapter. I have previously just jammed one in upside down (as the 12V and 5V are on each end).

7V is the tricky one as you have to split the difference between 12 and 5.

Ah yes indeed.. I got it mixed up!

So I done the 'molex thing' and the pump is pretty much useless at 5v for me, I'm guessing it's doing about 100-200 rpm if any at all. It gave me a whea when opening Lightroom.
I'm running a 4790k at 4.8Ghz @~1.34v.

Seems there's a 'sweet spot' between 5v & 7v where it's both effective and quiet but it's hard to find. I have connected back up to the fan controller on my Storm Stryker case, it seems to be the best bet until I either get/make a better fan controller. Or buy a quieter pump. I'm idling at ~22c now, and about 65c on a Cinebench run. It would be a great system if they got the pump to run a bit quieter..

I've seen in reviews that there's supposed to be a 5v fan connection supplied in addition to the 7v and 12v, but it seems mine was cut off before it was sent out to me.. I wonder if they 'bin' these pumps the same way they bin cpus?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Water Cooling
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › Cooler Master / Alphacool Eisberg Owners Club