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So I have been waiting and waiting to build my first ever computer. The wait has to end.
I’m currently a computer science undergraduate who will be doing loads of software development. My journey to developing this PC started in 2011, slowly collecting components for the build. Money problems flared up half way (student life problems) and I had to ditch the build until now. Since I finished my summer job, I’m in dire need of a real system. Developing on a laptop isn’t so productive IMO I’ve done plenty of research around HERE and I want to ask you, fellow overclockers to help me finalize my build.

Here is what I will be doing with the system;

Primary Use

- Heavy Software Development.
- Heavy (if possible) Overclocking.
- Light-Moderate Adobe Photoshop, Adobe InDesign, Adobe Illustrator.
- Heavy Internet Surfing & Blogging.
- Moderate Multimedia

Secondary Use

- Light-progressing-to-Moderate Gaming. (Newbie PC gamer here, taking things nice and slow)

Now that we have established what I will be doing with this build, here comes the part where I’m a bit undecided.

Budget - £900 ($1394.55 – according to Google)
Water-cooling? – YES, no buts!

Option A

I will be moving around a lot, between home and university, and probably after I finish university too. So the Bitfenix Prodigy looks attractive at the moment. I had initially thought about going with the Prodigy M but it looks like a huge challenge just to make the cable management look great.
So here is my proposed build for option A

Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Gene
CASE: Prodigy
CPU: 4670K
RAM: 8 gigs of Corsair Vengeance 1866mhz
GPU: AMD 7950 (water cooling in near future)
Water cooling: H100i
PSU: 1000W beQuiet dark power pro (already bought)
Fans :panaflo, bequiet, GT AP-15’s

Option B

I got a new 800D for a cracking deal on ebay, £150-60(can’t remember, I knew it was good deal) 2 years ago. It’s beautiful but its huge; it has space to work around with components and cables. The problem is I will be moving around and hauling this beast of a case would be effort. Should I sell it and contribute the money to option A or keep it and build around this case?

Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI HERO
CASE: 800D
CPU: 4670K
RAM: 8 gigs of Corsair Vengeance 1866mhz
GPU: AMD 7950 (water cooling in near future)
Watercooling:
Waterblock: ezblocks 480MM rad, 240MM rad – open loop, aquacomputer gpu waterblock, cpu waterblock
PSU: 1000W beQuiet dark power pro (already bought)
Fans :panaflo, bequiet, GT AP-15’s


Questions and Feedback.

Is the Asus Maximus VI GENE worth it?
Do I REALLY need a 4770k?


I kind of debated on going with ivy bridge a couple of months ago, at the end of the haswell is around the same price point (less in some cases) and seems sensible for a first time builder.But i am open to what you guys have to say.
Remember, I am a first time gamer/builder/desktop owner. So I know I will see a big boost in performance and the day to day things I do. So what you may call 4770k slow would be like “wow this is fast” for me.

I am open to any advice.

Thanks in advance
post #2 of 9
I know you already bought it but why did you buy a 1000 watts PSU for a system you could power with half that

Unless you plan to add two more video cards its way overkill

Also i am pretty sure the Dark Power Pro is way to big to fit into a Bitfenix Prodigy so you can forget the Prodigy if you want to keep your Dark Power Pro
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

I know you already bought it but why did you buy a 1000 watts PSU for a system you could power with half that

Unless you plan to add two more video cards its way overkill

Also i am pretty sure the Dark Power Pro is way to big to fit into a Bitfenix Prodigy so you can forget the Prodigy if you want to keep your Dark Power Pro

I bought the PSU 1.5 years ago before I ran into money problems. I know its overkill, but I will be wanting to upgrade to 2 GPU's in the future. And for the PSU fitting into the Prodigy...it should be a tight fit. Il check the measurements but I think it should be a snug fit.

[Edit] - 1000w PSU installed in Prodigy ...
Edited by computerjunkie - 8/31/13 at 5:17pm
post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by computerjunkie View Post

Questions and Feedback.

Is the Asus Maximus VI GENE worth it?
Do I REALLY need a 4770k?

No the Maximus VI GENE Is not worth it, because an expensive motherboard isn't going to really help out with overclocking on Haswell. For that, look at the Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H, or ASRock Z87 Extreme4. Both will be more than enough for your needs.

Secondly, judging by the optimal reasons you are building this (which isn't gaming) I'd be pretty sure the extra threads would help out and for that I would say go with the 4770k. Instead of spending the extra $100 or so dollars on the motherboard, get the 4770k instead.

I mean look at your primary uses:

- Heavy Software Development.
- Heavy (if possible) Overclocking.
- Light-Moderate Adobe Photoshop, Adobe InDesign, Adobe Illustrator.
- Heavy Internet Surfing & Blogging.
- Moderate Multimedia

As far as going with option A or option B. That's going to have to be your call. Do you really want your first build to have all of these possibilities that could go wrong with option B? For that I say go with option A for simplicity, ease of install, and less of a hassle.
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BiG StroOnZ View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by computerjunkie View Post

Questions and Feedback.

Is the Asus Maximus VI GENE worth it?
Do I REALLY need a 4770k?

No the Maximus VI GENE Is not worth it, because an expensive motherboard isn't going to really help out with overclocking on Haswell. For that, look at the Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H, or ASRock Z87 Extreme4. Both will be more than enough for your needs.

Secondly, judging by the optimal reasons you are building this (which isn't gaming) I'd be pretty sure the extra threads would help out and for that I would say go with the 4770k. Instead of spending the extra $100 or so dollars on the motherboard, get the 4770k instead.

I mean look at your primary uses:

- Heavy Software Development.
- Heavy (if possible) Overclocking.
- Light-Moderate Adobe Photoshop, Adobe InDesign, Adobe Illustrator.
- Heavy Internet Surfing & Blogging.
- Moderate Multimedia

As far as going with option A or option B. That's going to have to be your call. Do you really want your first build to have all of these possibilities that could go wrong with option B? For that I say go with option A for simplicity, ease of install, and less of a hassle.

Thanks for the info. really useful
post #6 of 9
I think Prodigy is mITX only. The Asus Gene VI is a mATX and won't fit.
post #7 of 9
Option C

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H
CASE: 800D
CPU: 4770K
RAM: 8 gigs G.SKILL Sniper Series 2133 cas 9
GPU: AMD 7950 (water cooling in near future)
Water cooling: ezblocks 480MM rad, 240MM rad – open loop, aquacomputer gpu waterblock, cpu waterblock
PSU: 1000W beQuiet dark power pro (already bought)
Fans :panaflo, bequiet, GT AP-15’s
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post #8 of 9
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Option C

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H
CASE: 800D
CPU: 4770K
RAM: 8 gigs G.SKILL Sniper Series 2133 cas 9
GPU: AMD 7950 (water cooling in near future)
Water cooling: ezblocks 480MM rad, 240MM rad – open loop, aquacomputer gpu waterblock, cpu waterblock
PSU: 1000W beQuiet dark power pro (already bought)
Fans :panaflo, bequiet, GT AP-15’s

Sounds good, what is up with the GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H? Is it best bang for buck?Does it perform well?
post #9 of 9
I just got the Z87X-UD3H ($10 more than the D3H here anyways).... I haven't overclocked mine at this point, but the stabilty and performance of my UD3H has been excellent my last 4 motherboards have been Gigabyte boards and they have all been great (well in fairness the 1st of the 4 (P35-DS3L) 1st board was doa... replacement has been flawless and until very recently my wife was using it still in her rig.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128592
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