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Hi all:

I'm looking for help in building a new computer in anticipation of BF4 and Rome II this fall! (if there is something great coming out, i.e., 9th gen video cards, I could wait a month) I'd like to re-use what I can (i.e., power supply, audio card). I have a full size case.

I'm looking for a modest very stable overclock, something that doesn't create a huge amount of heat that I can use a decent air cooler. I'd also like to do something that is energy efficient if possible. I love Asus Mobos and I've been very happy with Sapphire video cards. I will not, under any circumstances, buy another MSI product. I'm open to an SLI setup, but want the system to run anything currently out at ultra high settings (is this possible?) I currently run a Samsung monitor at 1680x1050 and don't forsee upgrading this monitor for another year.

This is the computer I built in 2010 and I've been very happy with it up till now -- it just won't run the new games very well, I don't think, so I'd like to upgrade. Let me know your thoughts!!

Budget is $1800

Currently have:

1 x Asus P6X58D Motherboard (1366)

1 x Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz (OC'd to 3.8ghz)

1 x Sapphire HD 5870

1 x CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

1 x HX Series HX850 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011

The case is COOLER MASTER HAF 932

1 x COOLER MASTER V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 1366/1155/775 and AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2

I have 2 SSDs for storage

1 x HT | OMEGA eClaro 7.1 Channels PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card



I think I want to get :

Intel 4770k
EVGA ACX Cooler GeForce GTX 780 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 GPU Card.
Not sure what kind of motherboard.

4 main questions:
(1) For the monitor/resolution I Have, is 2 EVGA GTX 780s overkill for the games I referenced?
(2) I want a somewhat simple, durable motherboard. I don't need any extra audio, since I Have that on a PCI-e HT Omega card already....I don't care about wireless networking, either, as I have a wireless router. It seems the higher end 1150 mobos all have lots of extra things I'd never use... but I do want a board that will LAST. Please recommend a good mobo that will fit this criteria. I am not concerned about the price
(3) should I re-use this ram, or get new ram? Is there any benefit for gaming to get faster ram?
(4) if my cooler works on Intel 1155, any reason why I can't use it on the 1150? Is there a cooler that works better? Thanks.

I am running Windows 7.
My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-4770k Haswell 3.5ghz @ 4.5ghz Asus MAXIMUS VI Hero, Z87 Chipset Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame 16gb G.Skill Trident X Series PC3 19200 @ 2400mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M-4 SSD / Intel X25-M SSD Samsung SATA Cooler Master V8 (air) Windows 7/64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 226BW 2ms 22" Widescreen Logitech MX3000 Corsair HX Series 850w 80+ Gold Cooler Master HAF 922 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech MX3000 Custom HT Omega eClaro 7.1 PCI-E x1 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-4770k Haswell 3.5ghz @ 4.5ghz Asus MAXIMUS VI Hero, Z87 Chipset Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame 16gb G.Skill Trident X Series PC3 19200 @ 2400mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M-4 SSD / Intel X25-M SSD Samsung SATA Cooler Master V8 (air) Windows 7/64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 226BW 2ms 22" Widescreen Logitech MX3000 Corsair HX Series 850w 80+ Gold Cooler Master HAF 922 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech MX3000 Custom HT Omega eClaro 7.1 PCI-E x1 
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(1) For the monitor/resolution I Have, is 2 EVGA GTX 780s overkill for the games I referenced?

For your resolution one GTX 780 is overkill.
I can’t see a need for two unless you want to prepped for a future monitor upgrade (even at 1080p though, one GTX 780 should be good).
If you're looking to future proof and just want to have some extra muscle, I'd recommend a Titan before two GTX 780s unless you plan to go for multiple monitors or high resolutions (1440) since it'll still be cheaper and smoother without SLI.
Really though, a single GTX 780 will do just fine.

(2) I want a somewhat simple, durable motherboard. I don't need any extra audio, since I Have that on a PCI-e HT Omega card already....I don't care about wireless networking, either, as I have a wireless router. It seems the higher end 1150 mobos all have lots of extra things I'd never use... but I do want a board that will LAST. Please recommend a good mobo that will fit this criteria. I am not concerned about the price

Personally I stick with the z chipsets because I’ve found minimal quality issues with them. Given that, a simple, durable board would be something like this Asus Z87-A: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131981
Does all the basics just fine.
If you want something a little fancier with all the bells and whistles (even though that doesn’t sound like what you’re interested in) The Asus Z87-PRO is a nice choice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979

(3) should I re-use this ram, or get new ram? Is there any benefit for gaming to get faster ram?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-bandwidth-latency-gaming,3409.html
This should answer your questions on RAM speed. .
Short answer: faster won’t make much of a difference, though increasing capacity can help a little with SSDs (still not necessary though). Realistically you should be fine with 6gb of RAM, but if you want to upgrade anyway, there’s nothing wrong with having more (personally I like a minimum of 8gb, though I don't think I've ever used that much under normal workloads).

(4) if my cooler works on Intel 1155, any reason why I can't use it on the 1150? Is there a cooler that works better? Thanks.

Based on Newegg’s product page, your cooler is compatible with 1150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103055R
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3960X Rampage IV Extreme GTX Titan G.Skill Ripjaw Z Series 64GB (8x8) DDR3 2,400MZ  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 Pro Samsung 830 WD VelociRaptor x4 RAID 10 H80i 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 Pro (Media Center Edition) BenQ XL2420T x3 Max Nighthawk X8 Rosewill Lightning 1300 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
COSMOS II Logitech Performance MX Razer Vespula Logitech X540 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DSX 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3960X Rampage IV Extreme GTX Titan G.Skill Ripjaw Z Series 64GB (8x8) DDR3 2,400MZ  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 Pro Samsung 830 WD VelociRaptor x4 RAID 10 H80i 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 Pro (Media Center Edition) BenQ XL2420T x3 Max Nighthawk X8 Rosewill Lightning 1300 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
COSMOS II Logitech Performance MX Razer Vespula Logitech X540 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DSX 
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Ok, THANK YOU...very helpful.

A few follow-ups.

One - what is the difference between the three EVGA titan cards sold on Newegg? They have different clock speeds - isn't it just possible to overclock the card yourself? Why bother buying a card with a pre-set clock speed when you can just overclock it yourself?

As to the RAM issue - is 6gb enough? It seems I can upgrade that in 6 months, rather than doing it now...

For the mobo, I found the Asus Maximus VI.... looks nice...I think I'm set!
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-4770k Haswell 3.5ghz @ 4.5ghz Asus MAXIMUS VI Hero, Z87 Chipset Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame 16gb G.Skill Trident X Series PC3 19200 @ 2400mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M-4 SSD / Intel X25-M SSD Samsung SATA Cooler Master V8 (air) Windows 7/64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 226BW 2ms 22" Widescreen Logitech MX3000 Corsair HX Series 850w 80+ Gold Cooler Master HAF 922 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech MX3000 Custom HT Omega eClaro 7.1 PCI-E x1 
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My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7-4770k Haswell 3.5ghz @ 4.5ghz Asus MAXIMUS VI Hero, Z87 Chipset Galaxy GTX 780 Hall of Fame 16gb G.Skill Trident X Series PC3 19200 @ 2400mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M-4 SSD / Intel X25-M SSD Samsung SATA Cooler Master V8 (air) Windows 7/64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 226BW 2ms 22" Widescreen Logitech MX3000 Corsair HX Series 850w 80+ Gold Cooler Master HAF 922 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech MX3000 Custom HT Omega eClaro 7.1 PCI-E x1 
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