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good thing you don't buy nvidia cards...

they asked 1000 dollars for 30 percent lachen.gif

edit should say 29 percent.



Yeah, not cool at all. Feels that way in gaming industry (Battlefield, Watch Dogs, etc.) as well as hardware (Intel, looking at you and Haswell). Minimal improvements for more money.


I mean, I could buy a new video card (let's assume 30% increase over 7950 for the x950), for 350-400 dollars. Then I would get to play the same games on the same monitor, but I might get 95fps instead of 75. That's about 20 dollars per additional frame in that case . That's kind of a lot for not much difference in the actual gameplay experience.


Or I could (which I did) upgrade from a 27" 1080p monitor to my QNIX 27" 1440p monitor with an amazing Samsung panel and be utterly blown away by a whole new level of image quality and experience in not just games but movies and the desktop.


I'm kind of thinking something similar going forward too. If it really is only 30% or so, I'll put that 350-400 towards a new pair of speakers, get a large improvement in my experience for not just games but movies and music as well, and wait until AMD releases a card that gives me 50% or more improvement for the same price I paid for my current card.


I only go AMD over Nvidia because I like the image I get from their cards better. Even though everyone says it is the same, I tried the 660ti and 7950 and still prefer AMD's output. Plus I like supporting ATI / AMD if possible.
Edited by Robertdt - 9/2/13 at 6:42pm
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4096 SP's doesn't sound too farfetched if AMD does what Nvidia did with the 580 ( Or was it the 680? ) - reduce GPGPU capability.

Miners would hate it, but as a gamer I welcome it biggrin.gif. Then again I have no idea how architectures work so... yea tongue.gif

There's no good reason to do that, especially since they want HSA...
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I highly highly doubt AMD will release a card with 4K SPs... the other rumors of one with 2.3K and 48 ROPs made more sense.
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Yeah, not cool at all. Feels that way in gaming industry (Battlefield, Watch Dogs, etc.) as well as hardware (Intel, looking at you and Haswell). Minimal improvements for more money.


I mean, I could buy a new video card (let's assume 30% increase over 7950 for the x950), for 350-400 dollars. Then I would get to play the same games on the same monitor, but I might get 95fps instead of 75. That's about 20 dollars per additional frame in that case . That's kind of a lot for not much difference in the actual gameplay experience.


Or I could (which I did) upgrade from a 27" 1080p monitor to my QNIX 27" 1440p monitor with an amazing Samsung panel and be utterly blown away by a whole new level of image quality and experience in not just games but movies and the desktop.


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I only go AMD over Nvidia because I like the image I get from their cards better. Even though everyone says it is the same, I tried the 660ti and 7950 and still prefer AMD's output. Plus I like supporting ATI / AMD if possible.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL


If you get 75 fps, why did you buy a new card? Don't be ridiculous no one is forcing anyone to buy a 1000$ GPU. Don't get me wrong I'm with you on that but they would not sell stupidly expensive GPUs for the performance they get if they didn't sell in the first place. Sheeps buy it, they keep selling it... that's why we get yearly franchise in video game and movie remake out of the wazoo.

I feel bad for titan owner, Sure they got the best card on the market... but Sold their soul and send the message to Nvidia that it's all okay to sell 999$ Single gpu because it got 35-40% performance over the 300$ GPU. That's what I call premium price, 3 time the price and only 1/3 more performance.
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it wont be since 20nm isn't ready.

How do the two relate? If nVidia can put out massive dies, why AMD cannot?

I'm not saying they will release one, most likely they won't (their only truly profitable market for such a card would be the FirePro range), but that they could? Of course they could.
   
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384-bit -> 2304 to 2816 ± 256
512-bit -> 2560 to 3584 ± 512

Also my 2 cents, 70% chance that GlobalFoundries will be producing these GPUs as some of them are TSV based.
Edited by Seronx - 9/3/13 at 12:03am
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How do the two relate? If nVidia can put out massive dies, why AMD cannot?

I'm not saying they will release one, most likely they won't (their only truly profitable market for such a card would be the FirePro range), but that they could? Of course they could.

not saying they can't do a bigger chip.

I'm saying that you can't double a chip that already takes 365mm^2 on 28nm. Or well, you might be able to do that in theory but as a practical idea for AMD atm it's complete nonsense.
 
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384-bit -> 2304 to 2816 ± 256
512-bit -> 2560 to 3584 ± 512

Also my 2 cents, 70% chance that GlobalFoundries will be producing these GPUs as some of them are TSV based.
70%?!
What are the odds that glofo has their 3D transistor ready.
This chip was probably already designed when they made the announcement.
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not saying they can't do a bigger chip.

I'm saying that you can't double a chip that already takes 365mm^2 on 28nm. Or well, you might be able to do that in theory but as a practical idea for AMD atm it's complete nonsense.
With 20nm they could but the chances of that are like 5%
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