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I was wanting to go amd but im worried they will not support am3+ and make amd desktop cpu and only make apu

is it worth it to get 8350 though with v formula z
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Depends what you're replacing.

Good chance the socket will become obsolete, and that motherboard probably isn't worth spending so much money on.

In saying that, Intel's 1150 socket sounds like it won't get any love from Broadwell (5th gen) so if you don't neeeed to upgrade, you could always wait and see what comes around.
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I was wanting to go amd but im worried they will not support am3+ and make amd desktop cpu and only make apu

is it worth it to get 8350 though with v formula z

No. If you're going to spend that much on CPU+motherboard you may as well overclock an Intel chip. Compare the price of an 8350+that mobo and an fx-6300+gigabyte 970a-ud3. The difference is how much money you're wasting for the vast majority of applications since, once you overclock, performance is going to be pretty much the same.

Also, don't worry about future support. Buy for the present. Re-using a motherboard is not going to make or break your financial future four years down the road.
    
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As of right now - no one has any clue about what AMD is going to be doing. There should be info out about it by the end of Oct.
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AMD's server roadmaps clearly show no Steamroller-based 8+ core server chips (which the AM3+ consumer chips historically are derived from) through the end of 2014 so it seems unlikely that any new AM3+ chips are going to be released. It seems they're heavily going down the APU route with FM2+ chips for the foreseeable future even in the server space.

As such, if you're starting fresh (not re-using an existing motherboard) then you'd be better off getting an i5-4670K and a Z87-chipset motherboard like Gigabyte's Z87X-UD3H. However, if you're re-using an existing AM3+ motherboard then you might as well get an FX-8320 and call it a day.
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While I agree that Z87 is probably the best Idea for future upgrades like new processors within the next year or so, going AM3+ is a more practical solution financially. a 8350/8320 + a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 based off of Amazon today would cost $369.98 + tax while an i7 4770k is more than $320 by itself, the i5 4670k $230. And most Z87 motherboards cost more than $200 so right there is like $400 at a possible least.
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While I agree that Z87 is probably the best Idea for future upgrades like new processors within the next year or so, going AM3+ is a more practical solution financially. a 8350/8320 + a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 based off of Amazon today would cost $369.98 + tax while an i7 4770k is more than $320 by itself, the i5 4670k $230. And most Z87 motherboards cost more than $200 so right there is like $400 at a possible least.

Expensive motherboards are largely pointless unless you want to do something more ambitious than air cooling towers or closed loop water coolers. The suggestions you make, kishagi, aren't actually all that cost-efficient.

You list an 83x0 chip + expensive motherboard for $370 when for a lot of purposes an i5-3570k & reasonable motherboard (gigabyte z77-hd3) is going to perform better for less ($325). More importantly, unless you really, really need those 7th & 8th cores (non-professional users almost invariably will not), and fx-6300 and reasonable motherboard (gigabyte 970a-ud3) @$230 is going to perform essentially the same as the 83x0+expensive motherboard after an overclock & cost $150 less than your suggestion.
    
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I was wanting to go amd but im worried they will not support am3+ and make amd desktop cpu and only make apu

is it worth it to get 8350 though with v formula z

Not really;Most world records are done on regular Formula smile.gif
As for the 8350..eh..Even to this date in Sept/2013, I'd rather run a Thuban.
 
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Expensive motherboards are largely pointless unless you want to do something more ambitious than air cooling towers or closed loop water coolers. The suggestions you make, kishagi, aren't actually all that cost-efficient.

You list an 83x0 chip + expensive motherboard for $370 when for a lot of purposes an i5-3570k & reasonable motherboard (gigabyte z77-hd3) is going to perform better for less ($325). More importantly, unless you really, really need those 7th & 8th cores (non-professional users almost invariably will not), and fx-6300 and reasonable motherboard (gigabyte 970a-ud3) @$230 is going to perform essentially the same as the 83x0+expensive motherboard after an overclock & cost $150 less than your suggestion.

True. Actually very true. The way you described is imho the best, most cost efficient way to build a pc.
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