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I don't think there's any need to do anything in a special way. Just install the version of Intel's Rapid Storage Technology that you want (such as the latest), and go from there.


What I meant is, if you are going to use Samsung Magician software is it better to avoid installing STOR_Win7_8_12.5.0.1066.exe which includes the Intel drive management software and just install the AHCI inf contained in the F6/floppy zip download?
Doesn't make a difference. I like the IRST control center, but I also have a RAID 0 array. The softwares are not for the same purpose.
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Hello wink.gif The order i do is this : Install Windows 8 with AHCI set in bios ( If u install the drivers with load file from USB stick from f6flpy-x64 at this point they will get overwritten when u install chipset anyway smile.gif ) At this point i install infinst_autol -overall switch . Reboot PC, go in device manager scroll down to IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers and update the driver from f6flpy-x64, usually latest ones . In the moment i write this 12.8.0.1016 for AHCI inf , 9.4.0.1026 chipset . I don`t use IRST utility since i don`t use raid on my Samsung 840 SSD
And to be on-topic, i never had problems with this setup Samsung + AHCI inf drivers, i don`t even imagine it could be one problem even with IRST program
Edited by Silviu - 9/3/13 at 11:18am
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I would stay away from that site, lol. biggrin.gif

IRST or IRSTE have caused zero issues and to say that Samsung recommends this is burnt imho. I also run the Magician 4.2.1

@Parsec... how ya like that Samsung cloning bud. Fast or what? For what I backup it's better than imaging in so many ways for me.thumb.gif

I never used the Samsung cloning software until yesterday, what a coincidence! It is fast and worked flawlessly, under five minutes from one SSD to another, Windows 8 Pro 64bit installation of ~27GB size. Worked fine with a UEFI/GPT installation too, although it looks like the various partitions are in a different order on the target drive... I should check that again.

You're right, what a great tool to have, just have a fresh Windows installation with drivers and basic programs on a backup drive, and whenever you want to reinstall your OS, done in five minutes with the cloning software.

Frankly, I've used the Intel provided Acronis cloning software, which IMO works as well as the Samsung cloning software does.

That website/forum is about a flight simulator software, so not a pure hardware geek site. I still wonder where they got that idea, did someone have a problem and a first level support person for Samsung told them not to use IRST just to get them off the phone?

One of my top five rules for PCs is, If any hardware or software does not work right on one (my) PC, that does not automatically mean that hardware or software will fail on all PCs.
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Hey parsec,what to say?Intel RST is like saver to us SSD lovers.if we don't have it we would still be on Microsoft driver for storage controllers from 2006.
Also this proved one more time that overclock.net is best place for exact information thumb.gif

Thanks Igor, I knew we would have your support for IRST. thumb.gif

Not that IRST is perfect, it isn't as you know, different versions have different performance, and bugs have appeared in various versions. It's interesting that Samsung mentioned IRST 12.6 in their document, I had problems with it and a RAID 0 of Intel SSDs not long ago. I changed to 12.5 and the problems were gone. Intel no longer provides 12.6 in their downloads, but I still see it on at least one mother board manufactures download pages.

I cannot believe that a NVIDIA SATA driver used with an AMD chipset works with the Magician software, but the AMD driver (RAID? AHCI?) does not. Isn't the old NVIDIA driver an IDE driver? doh.gif
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What I meant is, if you are going to use Samsung Magician software is it better to avoid installing STOR_Win7_8_12.5.0.1066.exe which includes the Intel drive management software and just install the AHCI inf contained in the F6/floppy zip download?

I always manually install the drivers from the floppy pack (or extract from the package http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145706) via device manager to avoid the Intel's bloatware.
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Doesn't make a difference. I like the IRST control center, but I also have a RAID 0 array. The softwares are not for the same purpose.


Thanks for the info, do you see any benefit to running the IRST control center if you are only running AHCI (non-RAID)?

I'm not sure what your experience is with the Samsung Magician software but do you know if the “optimize” drive option is similar to the optimize option for SSD's (TRIM on demand?) that is now built into Windows 8 in the defrag utility?
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Hello wink.gif The order i do is this : Install Windows 8 with AHCI set in bios ( If u install the drivers with load file from USB stick from f6flpy-x64 at this point they will get overwritten when u install chipset anyway smile.gif ) At this point i install infinst_autol -overall switch . Reboot PC, go in device manager scroll down to IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers and update the driver from f6flpy-x64, usually latest ones . In the moment i write this 12.8.0.1016 for AHCI inf , 9.4.0.1026 chipset . I don`t use IRST utility since i don`t use raid on my Samsung 840 SSD
And to be on-topic, i never had problems with this setup Samsung + AHCI inf drivers, i don`t even imagine it could be one problem even with IRST program

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I always manually install the drivers from the floppy pack (or extract from the package http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145706) via device manager to avoid the Intel's bloatware.


I ended up taking Silviu and Oubadah advice on a fresh Windows 7/SP1 64 install and so far it works like a charm, thanks again.
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Thanks for the info, do you see any benefit to running the IRST control center if you are only running AHCI (non-RAID)?

 

There's no benefit that I can see. I have it completely disabled.

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O i can definitely see differences between Intel RST and Microsoft driver.System is a lot more responsive,shorter boot time.Microsoft driver is from 2006,for good s..e we didn't have then SSDs even on horizon.
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Been using RST with my 840 pro for over 6 months now. Works like a champ.

Also worked like a champ like my M4, my Vertex 3 and my Intel 520.
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