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Hey, guys, I am helping my buddy to build a $400 AMD PC to play BF4.

I don't really care what settings because I want him to have at least 40 FPS.

Do you guys know any parts?

Oh, yeah, we live in USA.
     
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It sounds like an AMD APU based build. I will have one ready for you soon enough.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4 ATX FM2 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.51 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 311 (Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($42.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $391.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A85X Extreme4 ATX FM2 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
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Case: Cooler Master Elite 311 (Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($42.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $391.44
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Does it need GPU?
I mean, I am not quite familiar with the AMD APU PC, so I can't tell if they are good enough.
Only AMD APU PC I am familiar is the laptop rather a desktop.
If my buddy decide to throw in a GPU like 7970 or something like that, will it be a bottleneck?
     
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Interesting "challenge" for the $400 and all, but I would say that if he wants to enjoy modern titles, he should at least consider throwing $70-100 extra in the mix.

For anything above 40 fps @ 1080p and high details (no AA) in BF3 we are looking at Radeon 7850 performance.
For slightly below 40 fps and similar settings we are talking 650ti.

Of course YMMV if you start going with lower settings, but pretty sure if that kind of horsepower is needed for BF3, BF4 will need the same or probably more. Kinda hard to push that with just the APU and 64bit 1866 RAM.
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The APU architecture (at least for Trinity) includes a decently powerful GPU that will get you around 45-50 FPS and gets higher with higher speed RAM. If your friend chooses to throw a 7970 in, it won't be so much a bottleneck as a bit overkill. You can do "Crossfire" or Dual Graphics with the Radeon HD 6450, 6570, 6670, 7730 (hard to find), and sometimes the 7750, and that provides a very sufficient FPS.
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Personally, I have a friend that can do it with his Trinity rig perfectly fine, if I need to have him post a video on Youtube and then link it here, I can easily do so.
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I know it's quite difficult for a 400 dollar AMD PC to run BF4 however he has a limited budget. He is going to use his Pell Grants Refund to buy it while including classes and books that cost most of his Pell Grants check.

However I did told him to wait till Thanksgiving, Black Friday, Christmas and Cyber Monday, and he agrees to it.

I just need an idea what kind of PC specs I should find for him.

If I decide to throw in a GPU, what kind would you guys recommend?
Doesn't matter which brand as long it's cheap and can make the AMD APU desktop perform better rather it's self.
     
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I would grab a 6670 (guaranteed DG possibility), or at least a 7850 if he just wants a powerful card.
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Can someone help to talk to my buddy on Steam.
He's getting himself confused about PC.

I would gladly friends you guys and help me.
     
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