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That makes no sense. I've used a fingertip grip all my life with all kinds of mice, and it never hurts even after long gaming sessions. If the grip was inherently painful like you seem to suggest, no one would ever get used to it in the first place and would use another grip naturally.

It's not painful in the short term, but it's by far the most straining and uncomfortable of the 3 main types of grip because it requires more muscles to move the mouse and it also puts unnatural strain on the tendons. Some people find a good mouse+hand postion combo for them which is reasonably comfortable, but it's not ever going to be as comfy and healthy as a natural palm grip.
post #12 of 16
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I have now narrowed it down to the Corsair M65 and Logitech G500s these are the mice that felt most comfortable to me, I have also changed my mousemat to a Steelseries 4HD which has seems much better for laser mice than my previous cloth pad.

Not sure there is a lot in it, the G500s has more buttons and a 4D scroll wheel, the M65 has epic build quality. They both have a 8200dpi laser.

Anyone game with either?
post #13 of 16
How's the 4hd when using high sensitivity? I also intend to buy one soon.
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
It's really nice, however I cant really comment on high sensitivity as I only use 1800 DPI, I think that this mousemat makes any mouse more accurate IMO and should do you proud as it is so fast to glide across due in part to the material and the general thinness of the design in the first place. It really makes my mouse feel accurate using this so far, hope that helps you biggrin.gif
post #15 of 16
If you're willing to be a bit adventurous, there are other mice out there using variants on the M65 shell and optical sensors...
LBots Armor with Avago 3090.
Noppoo Alien Frog with Avago 3050.
Langtu T8 with Avago 5050.
I have not tried any of these mice and cannot in any way vouch for their quality. All websites linked are for information purposes only...it's up to you to find a safe way to buy what you want.

And of course, there's always the M40...
Edited by FoxWolf1 - 9/13/13 at 9:11pm
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post #16 of 16
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That makes no sense. I've used a fingertip grip all my life with all kinds of mice, and it never hurts even after long gaming sessions. If the grip was inherently painful like you seem to suggest, no one would ever get used to it in the first place and would use another grip naturally.

It's not painful in the short term, but it's by far the most straining and uncomfortable of the 3 main types of grip because it requires more muscles to move the mouse and it also puts unnatural strain on the tendons. Some people find a good mouse+hand postion combo for them which is reasonably comfortable, but it's not ever going to be as comfy and healthy as a natural palm grip.

I feel you just declared this to be some general rule which is not true.

I'm physically pretty broken regarding RSI stuff. I tried finger tip to palm grip and in-between. The palm grip just moves my pain up the arm towards the shoulder. While doing that, my fingers still go strange over time and I eventually get pain in the fingers simply from clicking. This means using palm grip does not even fix the pain in the hand.

I can use finger tip grip the best. I can manage to be without pain even on long days if I sleep well and do some exercises. It seem stretching everything from fingers to doing something with the neck and back is most important, but doing some strength training for back and arms helps a lot as well. Palm grip, as far as I know, there's no chance to get that to work without pain for me, but I have to admit I wasn't very diligent about working out and other exercises when I tried to use a palm grip mouse.

Something like 800 dpi and no acceleration works best for me. So even with using finger tip grip, I still do move my arm around somewhat. I suspect that might be the trick that made it work well regarding pain. I suspect my hand (*) changes the way it grips and moves the mouse by itself over time. That's possible if the shape of the mouse works well for both finger tip and claw grip. Sometimes the fingers and hand do more work, sometimes they are lazy and the arm does more. That's how I imagine it has benefits compared to palm grip.

(*) I know it's really the brain. I'm hoping it subconsciously changes what it does with the hand and arm because it gets input from the nerves about the state of tendons and whatnot.
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