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Considering going back to Air cooling from Water cooling on GTX 780 SLI... Would really like your input

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Hi everyone,

Heres my small dilemma.

I have water cooled 1 out of 2 GTX780s that I own. Both of the cards are GTX 780 ACX cooler editions. Thus the coolers are very nice. My initial idea was to water cool 1 card but I stumbled upon a second gtx 780 smile.gif.

Heres where im having an issue with. In order to cool the second 780, I need to purchase a waterblock ($105) and another ex240 + fitings (55-60). I like to sell my cards and upgrade when the new ones come out and im starting to think that spending money on another block and radiator isnt worth it?

my first card clocks to 1300mhz on core without an issue. Ive done 1336 with water cooling at 1.21v. My second card pushes 1280mhz on air. So I think it can do 1300mhz on water. But is the extra performance worth the money? That is a hard decision.

Is money an issue? not necessarily. Is sound a bother? I tend to run my fans loud anyway while I game lol.

what would you do? would you water cool them? would you sell the GPU block?


I've been in the state of debating.
Edited by Vodkacooling - 9/3/13 at 9:03pm
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The performance (for gaming) at least is not necessarily having two cards, but how well the game is optimized. You could have dual Titans and run into a poorly coded game, and have the greatest drivers ever and it would still play like doo-doo.

If I had the money, and a good enough setup to keep them nice and chilly, yes- yes I would water cool them.
If I were to sell my cards every time a new generation comes out, I'd keep the block with them (if that's what you're asking), and sell them as a set.

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Originally Posted by Vodkacooling View Post

Hi everyone,

Heres my small dilemma.

I have water cooled 1 out of 2 GTX780s that I own. Both of the cards are GTX 780 ACX cooler editions. Thus the coolers are very nice. My initial idea was to water cool 1 card but I stumbled upon a second gtx 780 smile.gif.

Heres where im having an issue with. In order to cool the second 780, I need to purchase a waterblock ($105) and another ex240 + fitings (55-60). I like to sell my cards and upgrade when the new ones come out and im starting to think that spending money on another block and radiator isnt worth it?

my first card clocks to 1300mhz on core without an issue. Ive done 1336 with water cooling at 1.21v. My second card pushes 1280mhz on air. So I think it can do 1300mhz on water. But is the extra performance worth the money? That is a hard decision.

Is money an issue? not necessarily. Is sound a bother? I tend to run my fans loud anyway while I game lol.

what would you do? would you water cool them? would you sell the GPU block?

do you want to buy the block from me? biggrin.gif:D:D:D

I've been in the state of debating.

Keep one liquid cooled, one air cooled? Don't over clock the gpu? You just convinced me not to buy a gpu block, seeing as how you'd need to dunk on one everytime a new gpu comes out if you want to upgrade. & seeins as how overclocking a gpu doesn't do much it's not worth it.
post #4 of 7
Short View:
Do you want to have the GTX 880 when it comes out? Do want the latest and greatest gear when it lands? If so then you might not want to bother with water cooling when you want to start saving for the next best GTX -80. The more you tamper with your card the less likely it is they will retain their value, sure if you get a good over-clocker it might be worth a bit more, but then the buyer has to worry about if you pushed it too hard.


Long View:
Do you plan on upgrading your monitor soon? Are you thinking about getting a 2550p or a 4K monitor in a year or two/three? Because if you like your monitor resolution now then the power two 780's can produce means you wouldn't need to upgrade until you got a higher resolution monitor. In this case I would water cool them both for longevity and performance. Until your monitor exceeds 1080p your 780s will push out frames like no body's business.

Conclusion:
And of course it is all relative and all about what you want so it can change in a blink. You said money isn't a real issue so go for it, but if you don't like the risk that all water cooling solutions have, or don't want to hassle with water levels, air bubbles, or even contamination of the water, when you're just gonna replace'm in 12 months, then I'd wait.

If you couldn't infer what I'd do, I'd keep'm and water cool 'em till they couldn't play max graphics at 60 frames no mo'.
post #5 of 7
Man, if you have the cash, then dive right in without looking back but if you are hesitating because of cash flow then I'd stick with what you currently have. Waterblocks can be sold seperately so you get the current value of your card with the stock cooler plus whatever anyone's willing to pay for the waterblock at the time of sale. Most waterblocks are in the $100-120 range new and worst case, you sell yours for $50 each. That's not too bad.

On the other hand, I don't see the need to upgrade a pair of 780s anytime soon as those bad boys will eat through any game for at least the next two years for 1440p users. Think of how much you'll save in that time.
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Thanks Guys.

Im going to see how the temps are with the 2 in SLI on air cooling. Id gain maybe 50mhz on the core on each. I have to find some cheap ex240 radiator and fittings. Looks like everyone is leaning towards finishing the rig. Id like the latest cards because i dont like for them to lose their value so fast. But youre right, I can always sell the blocks wen new cards come out. I also will look into universal blocks.
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Hi everyone,

Heres my small dilemma.

I have water cooled 1 out of 2 GTX780s that I own. Both of the cards are GTX 780 ACX cooler editions. Thus the coolers are very nice. My initial idea was to water cool 1 card but I stumbled upon a second gtx 780 smile.gif.

Heres where im having an issue with. In order to cool the second 780, I need to purchase a waterblock ($105) and another ex240 + fitings (55-60). I like to sell my cards and upgrade when the new ones come out and im starting to think that spending money on another block and radiator isnt worth it?

my first card clocks to 1300mhz on core without an issue. Ive done 1336 with water cooling at 1.21v. My second card pushes 1280mhz on air. So I think it can do 1300mhz on water. But is the extra performance worth the money? That is a hard decision.

Is money an issue? not necessarily. Is sound a bother? I tend to run my fans loud anyway while I game lol.

what would you do? would you water cool them? would you sell the GPU block?


I've been in the state of debating.


sounds to me like money is a little your problem:)
otherwise you wouldn't mind buying the second block and barbs right.

anyways
leave the one on water and the other on air , and clock them both same as the aircooled one .

OR, if temps are ok on air , sell the block

simple
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