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I own both and have zero bias. My 8320@5ghz has a quite expensive loop to cool it but the cpu/mobo combined cost me £236, I7 4770k built yesterday cost me roughly £200 more for the cpu/mobo. I can not currently give my opinion regards gaming as stress testing the 4770k as we speak in p95. Is being stressed@4.4 with a £30 air cooler with a single fan config. I had zero problems with the 8320 after upgrading from a 8120@4.6. I also own a q6600 and a fx4170@5ghz.
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Back on topic, without analogies... the FX 8320 is a great CPU, at a great price currently... $145 on Amazon. I want one just to play with it but I have too many practical things to spend my money on for the next few months. Great for desktop or HTPC.

Most tech geeks get hung up on synthetic benchmarks or gaming benchmarks at super low resolution to show differences in performance. I prefer to see real world performance... I encode video quite often at times and multi threaded CPUs like the FX 8320 will rip through these functions very, very well. I also game at 1920 x 1080 resolution with effects on high and some AA enabled. I don't care what frame rates I would get at 1024 x 768, I don't play at those horrible resolutions anymore, lol.

As a result I don't go to many benchmark websites any more because they are mostly Intel shills because Intel ponies up for the good reviews. I prefer to wait for real world benchmarks by people who actually own the chip and run it on a daily basis. There are many of these such threads here on OCN if you look for them... they provide the true story of AMD's CPU capabilities without bias (usually) and without the usual 'set up to fail' benchmarks that is not a measure of how you would use your CPU when you buy it.

Why put any stock in benchmarks that do not represent how you would use the CPU in your daily routine? That's simply pointless.

I completely agree with you on the reviews and benchmarks. Just wait for users to post their results and look at the consistent patterns. There are those with golden chips and golden cards that will get outrageous benchmark scores, but when you start looking at the average scores, you get a clear idea of actual performance. Many people like comparing Overclocked and Overvolted 780s against bare bone stock Titans and go telling the world how much better a 780 is than a Titan.
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Could you send me the model of that ATX case? I need something similar for my Amd rig. As this case is killing me.

It all depends on the individual. Some people with Corosshair boards and 8350 are doing just fine. It all depends on the individual. If you look back on the posts you can see why the AM3+ platform turns me off.

Info is in the sig rig spec sheet.
but here you go
nMEDIAPC 6000B
It's a alright case for what it is, though fits everything real nice.

I have all the gear to water cool mine as well, bought a dual 80mm rad for the back and have a thick 120mm for the front. Should be enough to cool both my q9550 and gtx465 (though was waiting on the new AMD video cards so I could toss my GTX470 into it). I pretty much use my HTPC for any PC game I play with a controller, and of course media center stuff.


AM3 needed to die with Phenom II, sad that AM3+ is still being used at all.
But even with the fact you have to deal with AM3+ AMD's CPU's still offer great $/Performance.


Also I wouldn't really say a non k i5 would be all that great as a HTPC rig. IMO Intel Graphics aren't even worth the trouble even when being used as a HTPC. Purely based on price you can't really compare any AMD CPU to a K i7 or i5, mainly because they cost a good deal more. Plus I for one would rather have a A10 ITX machine over a i5 ITX machine if it was gonna be purely used for media/light gaming.
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I own both and have zero bias. My 8320@5ghz has a quite expensive loop to cool it but the cpu/mobo combined cost me £236, I7 4770k built yesterday cost me roughly £200 more for the cpu/mobo. I can not currently give my opinion regards gaming as stress testing the 4770k as we speak in p95. Is being stressed@4.4 with a £30 air cooler with a single fan config. I had zero problems with the 8320 after upgrading from a 8120@4.6. I also own a q6600 and a fx4170@5ghz.

My 8320 will not go past 4.3 without a better mother board and more expensive cooler. So much for the actual chip being economical. winksmiley02.gif
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My 8320 will not go past 4.3 without a better mother board and more expensive cooler. So much for the actual chip being economical. winksmiley02.gif

My vcore wall is roughly@4.5, after that the jumps were huge up to 1.58 for 5ghz stable. I have it on a rev 1 Sabertooth 990fx.
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It really doesn't matter IMO. I just chose a 2500K because SC2 loves Intel CPUs (HUGE difference in min fps going from 965 -> 2500k) and Ableton prefers single powerful cores over '8' modules. Also Bulldozer wasn't out yet lol.

And a 8230 is definitely overkill for a media-server, heck, I use an AMD C-50 at like 1Ghz to watch 1080p just fine. (And yes even blu-ray).
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Why does it bother you that the 8320 is just not a good choice for everyone? It's a great cpu, we get that but it has a lot of cons.

Intel is just a few bucks more. fx 8320 is 149usd, while a 3570k is 189. The intel is simply more flexible, in just about every category. Why does this bother you so much?

3570k bundle from microcenter starts at 305, and the 8320 combo starts at 189. Im an Intel guy, I own tons of them! But right now for an decent gamer I think 8320 with a 7970 (Or less) is the best way to go. We all know intel has the clocks, and Titans are the big boys, I love the 3000 FPS as much as the next guy, I run 3 7970s in xfire lol. But i'm standing firm that 8320 is the best VALUE in the computer market right now.thumb.gif
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3570k bundle from microcenter starts at 305, and the 8320 combo starts at 189. Im an Intel guy, I own tons of them! But right now for an decent gamer I think 8320 with a 7970 (Or less) is the best way to go. We all know intel has the clocks, and Titans are the big boys, I love the 3000 FPS as much as the next guy, I run 3 7970s in xfire lol. But i'm standing firm that 8320 is the best VALUE in the computer market right now.thumb.gif

AMD has the clocks tongue.gif Intel has the higher IPC and heat (Ivy and Haswell) smile.gif
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3570k bundle from microcenter starts at 305, and the 8320 combo starts at 189. Im an Intel guy, I own tons of them! But right now for an decent gamer I think 8320 with a 7970 (Or less) is the best way to go. We all know intel has the clocks, and Titans are the big boys, I love the 3000 FPS as much as the next guy, I run 3 7970s in xfire lol. But i'm standing firm that 8320 is the best VALUE in the computer market right now.thumb.gif

AMD has the clocks tongue.gif Intel has the higher IPC and heat (Ivy and Haswell) smile.gif

Doesn't Piledriver/Bulldozer produce more heat than Haswell/Ivy? Or is it just that they consume more power?
I thought Bulldozer/Piledriver had like 180w+ thermal output once overclocked.
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Doesn't Piledriver/Bulldozer produce more heat than Haswell/Ivy? Or is it just that they consume more power?
I thought Bulldozer/Piledriver had like 180w+ thermal output once overclocked.

If a processor consumes more power (Vishera consumes loads more power than Haswell) then it produces more heat. Haswell just has a defect that prevents it from transferring it's heat to the cooler properly.

FX-8320 is a great processor for the price but only if your needs fit around it's weaknesses. That means you use software that uses 6+ cores and the electricity is cheap where you live.

FX anything is an absolutely horrible choice for a HTPC.
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