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#1 ·
I was told earlier and after doing some research delidding with just AS5 or mx-4 will not work and CLU/CLP is needed to make sure the temps do not rise over time. I paid 46 dollars to overnight a couple of packages of CLU and am ready to do this thing. i am planning on the knife method. Any tips before i start? I have a 4770k and also a i3 3225 in a htpc. the i3 has amazing temps under the stock cooler. They never get above 55c. i would like to try the knife method on the i3 first before i do the 4770k just for the practice. If i screw it up it wont be as bad and i think i can replace it for around 150 dollars. Just want your opinion on this. the 3225 is notr soldered on right? It can be delided?

Paul
 
#2 ·
good luck, be careful i tried that method with a 3770k ended scratching it but it survived luckily, also i used ocz freeze on die it lowered 10c
 
#4 ·
thats exactly what i am doing. CLU on die and IC diomand on IHS. still waiting 4 package. ahh i am nerveous. Can i do this to a i3 3225?

for 20C it is worth it!. i have a bad overclocker. 1.310v for 4.5ghz. with that voltage and a h110 temps are low 90s.

Ill let you guys know how it goes.
 
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Originally Posted by paulb787 View Post

thats exactly what i am doing. CLU on die and IC diomand on IHS. still waiting 4 package. ahh i am nerveous. Can i do this to a i3 3225?

for 20C it is worth it!. i have a bad overclocker. 1.310v for 4.5ghz. with that voltage and a h110 temps are low 90s.

Ill let you guys know how it goes.
Not sure bro, people don't delid those chips because it's pointless, I say skip delidding your i3 and just do your K chip. Just take your time man, use a thin razor blade and be patient. There's no need to rush.

I'm in the same boat as you voltage wise, takes the same exact voltage for 4.5, At that Voltage I can run Intel Burn test and never go above 66-68 C with a custom water loop. You should see around the same temps after the delid.

Be sure that you apply the CLU directly to the DYE and also to the underside of the IHS, as thin as a layer as you can get without leaving holes in it. Once you start to spread it with the brush you'll get a feel of how thin it needs to be.

I know this pic isn't great but this was my first delid I did a few weeks ago

http://minus.com/lAgfp587UfT9t

This was my chip before the Delid, 4.7 at 1.44 Volts (I run at 4.5 for everyday OC)

http://minus.com/lbh2UHlJUsampa

And After, 4.7 at 1.44 Volts

http://minus.com/l9FH1jEiPV6v3
 
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this ok?
if that's one of those blades that break every 1/4" or so to reveal new blade, i'd say no, try to use something like this, perfect thickness

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/28-510_2_rgb_4.jpg

these are a little too thick

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/hoenstine/hoenstine0911/hoenstine091100052/5993801-razor-blade-macro-isolated-on-white-with-clipping-path.jpg

Alot of people use these but they're expensive and it's very easy to cut yourself

http://www.sxc.hu/assets/3/24548/razor-blade-435178-m.jpg
 
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I got it. this is a i3 that had NO reason to be de-lidded but i am soo glad i did. even if i screwed it up thats 140 instead of 350. The problem i had was the first corner i tried was the hardest for some reason. Once i moved to the others i was ok and once u get it u can just glide ur razer through the whole thing realy. Im testing it now.
 
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Originally Posted by paulb787 View Post

I got it. this is a i3 that had NO reason to be de-lidded but i am soo glad i did. even if i screwed it up thats 140 instead of 350. The problem i had was the first corner i tried was the hardest for some reason. Once i moved to the others i was ok and once u get it u can just glide ur razer through the whole thing realy. Im testing it now.
hurry up! i wanna see results!
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Originally Posted by paulb787 View Post

I have the coolest i3 in the world. Prime95 for 10 minutes and 44c highest core with stock intel cooler
wait...

is that CLU on the intel cooler from IHS to cooler? if so take it off immediately you need CLU to touch copper only the IHS is copper but not the whole intel cooler as aluminum is very close so I wouldn't risk it.
 
#18 ·
you guys know you can de lid a chip with out a razor in like 1 second right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3dMgRSEi2Y

EDIT: 10 minutes of Prime 95 doesn't mean jack squat. 16 hours on the other hand does mean something.
 
#19 ·
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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post

you guys know you can de lid a chip with out a razor in like 1 second right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3dMgRSEi2Y

EDIT: 10 minutes of Prime 95 doesn't mean jack squat. 16 hours on the other hand does mean something.
so does 20 seconds of IBT it's not the stability here its temperatures he's looking at prime 95 you can add 5-7C and theres your max's
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some prefer the razor others don't. everyone's different
 
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yeah it takes way longer than 10 minutes to hit max temp.
 
#21 ·
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yeah it takes way longer than 10 minutes to hit max temp.
by the way don't use that video link although helpful is misleading in the fact that the Intel paste they used is actually quite good better than most pastes. It's the space from the glue that caused the heating issue.
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Originally Posted by Valgaur View Post

by the way don't use that video link although helpful is misleading in the fact that the Intel paste they used is actually quite good better than most pastes. It's the space from the glue that caused the heating issue.
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which solder overcomes a lot easier.
 
#23 ·
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which solder overcomes a lot easier.
not with Ivy and Haswell. the reason they had to use paste was because the heat output and the cooling with solder was killing the chips from the expansions and contraction of the material. So Intel had to figure out a different way and I much prefer paste makes me feel more connected to my computer making it run better.
 
#24 ·
Ok It is done. I did my i3 and my i7. I learned a lot with the i3 and the hand tool in the pic above i still used but it was a little to thick to make the corner cut at first. i went back to home depot and used these http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/28-510_2_rgb_4.jpg. they seemed to make the corner cut i needed. After making that cut i used the hand tool a little for torq. You really do have to put some preasure on that thing!

The only thing i did wrong. Which i am a little concerned about was after doing the i3 perfectly I was nervous and on my i7 and when i was making a corner cut i jerked a little and the kinfe went blade side down on the pcb. It made a very thin scratch. I couldn't even take a pic of it. Everything else was a walk in the park. One thing is for everyone else is if you are having trouble with a corner move to another one and once you are in just turn the blade and go down the side of the processor. You can really just get one corner and do it that way.

Question.

When I turned my i7 pc back on it actually said "new cpu installed"? How in the world would it know that? Could this be from the scratch? I am pissed i did that. Everything else was gravy! How would it know that a new cpu was installed?

Temps 15C better by they way. It was worth it! I have run 20 minutes of prime so far and havnt had an issue. So i think i am good.

Thanks 4 Everything
Paul
 
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