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Should I upgrade only the GPU in order to play BF4?

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You can see my setup below. Q8200 with a 4830. It's an old PC, next spring it will make his 5th year on my desk. I've used it for gaming probably 10% of the time. However I would want to play new games like BF4 without a hick. And by that I mean medium to high settings (not Ultra) with 60fps on a resoluton of 1680x1050. You can see that my CPU is kinda mid grade by 2008/9 standards. My question is, would a GPU cut it, or should I also upgrade the processor. I kinda don't want to spend money on a CPU, but I don't know if a 7850 combined with a Q8200 will be enough for BF4.
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I'd say you would do well with a CPU upgrade.
My last GF's rig had a Q8300 and 5770 that seemed to bottleneck as a result of the CPU.
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BF4 will be CPU intensive, you will need to upgrade that Q8200
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A stock Q8200 performs like a phenom II 940.
Overclock your cpu to at least 2.8 or 3ghz if you want to push an HD7850.
If you plan on keep the cpu stock, go for an HD7770 or GTX650.
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Hello, your platform is quite old. Even the little Ivy Celeron G1610 2.6ghz is better by quite a lot than your current cpu.
My advice to you is to change your platform to 1150 / 1155.

Here is an ideea of what you could get on a really tight budget of 300$ and still get great performance at the resolution you are running:

CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 Haswell 3.0GHz
Mobo: MSI B85M-P33 with Sata 3 and PCI Express 3.0 support
Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws 4GB 1333mhz Dual Channel
GPU: Asus DirectCU2 7790 1GB

You can probably still keep your psu since it was able to power your system which is more power hungry than the components above. HDD should be compatible as well.
Also if you want you could sell your current components after the platform upgrade and get an SSD and put some games on it or whatever you want to buy. biggrin.gif
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Aizou, after reading your comment I realized that my system is really old and there is no point of slapping a new videocard. Yes it might do the job for BF4 on medium, but If I really wan't to play next gen games I should deepen my pockets. I would not bother upgrading this PC. I'll give it to my mother. In a few months I will get something like a Haswell 4570/4670 with a GTX760 or an AMD 9000 series. I think this winter would be the perfect time for a new PC considering all the awesome games that are coming. I've calculated that if I try to keep things on a budget, meaning I will get the least expensive Z87 mobo with the least expensive pair of RAM (2x4GB) + the cheapest 760 I could manage to build myself a gaming PC for 1400-1500 levs. Thats 940USD or 711EUR. I think that's pretty good.

It'll be something along those lines:
CPU: Intel Core i5 4570 or 4670
GPU: GTX 760 or 9870/9950
Mobo: Gigabyte Z87M-HD3
RAM: some random pair of 2x4GB, probably Corsair XMS3
Case: Some cheap CoolerMaster mid tower case like the HAF 912 Advanced
PSU: some random cheap 650W from my local store
Storage: 128GB A-Data SSD
For CPU cooling I will get my CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus from my current PC although I don't know if it'll fit the new socket.

I think that's pretty great for 750 euros.
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You can probably still keep your psu since it was able to power your system which is more power hungry than the components above.

Btw I had a 450W PSU but it got bust and I got a 550W. Now I have no problems with this one. I always like to be 100 watts above what is reasonable for a particular configuration. That's why I configured the the above system with a 650W PSU although much less powerful would do the job.
Edited by TheWhiteStig - 9/4/13 at 6:35pm
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PSU: some random cheap 650W from my local store

No buddy, do not get a cheap 650w psu. I would give up on the ssd and invest in a more solid psu like the Seasonic M12II 620W Bronze or Seasonic Gold Series 550W, both are great psus with high efficiency, modular and 5 year warranty.
Later on you can add the ssd which is not as complicated as changing a psu, you need a solid psu right from the start to power your new system.

Also that motherboard you chose is overkill for a non oc platform. Z87 is for high oc platforms, that msi mobo I suggested on my first post has all connectivity you need and will give you the same performance at half the price.

I don`t think you can fit a 9950 in your budget, but a 9850/9870 you could.
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For CPU cooling I will get my CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus from my current PC although I don't know if it'll fit the new socket.
If you still have the 1155 socket mount you can still it use with no problems on the 1150.
Edited by Aizou - 9/5/13 at 12:54am
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I would say you should do an entire system upgrade, if you wanna play BF4 and newer titles you will need it. If price is an issue, try finding used stuff for sale like a year or two old. I recently found a 3570k and an Asus P8Z77-VLK for like $200 rolleyes.gif
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If budget is a concern - i5 2500k still perform REALLY well and can feed todays GPUs (and probably for the next year or so) just fine at 1080p+, and they all over clock to 4.5Ghz easily. Find a good used system and get 90% of todays gaming performance for half the cost.
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