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Poll Results: What AIR cooler offers the lowest Temperatures? (3570k 100% load)

 
  • 25% (5)
    Phanteks PH-TC14PE
  • 10% (2)
    Noctua NH-U14S
  • 30% (6)
    Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E
  • 10% (2)
    Noctua NH-D14
  • 5% (1)
    Silverstone Heligon HE01
  • 0% (0)
    Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 2
  • 0% (0)
    Akasa Medusa
  • 5% (1)
    Prolimatech Magahalem
  • 0% (0)
    Alpenfohn Matterhorn
  • 0% (0)
    Deepcool Assassin / Alpenfohn K2
  • 15% (3)
    Something else, post below.
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post #11 of 31
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Originally Posted by Scrubls View Post

I got a 3570k that I intend to OC but I need some help deciding whats best.. Should I go with a cheap CM Hyper 212 EVO, or something expensive like a noctua something, whats the best Air cooler out there?

Whats the difference in temperature between the 212 EVO and the best out there?

For the Price, the Evo 212 will work great on your 3570K.

Obvioulsly not the best one, but it is the best at its price point.

Depends how much you plan on overclocking, and how much more you're willing to spend.

People OC Z77 chips to 4.5 on the evo 212 no problem.
post #12 of 31
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Man... I still don't know what to buy.... forget the 212 EVO it's crap tongue.gif

Should I go for:

Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E ?

Phanteks PH-TC14PE ?

Noctua NH-D14 ?

Is there something else on air that is better then these?

Reviews don't help, they vary too much, I seen one where the Noctua NH-U14S is actually ahead of Noctua NH-D14, but then seen a bunch more where NH-U14S is alot worse then Noctua NH-D14....

I think making a poll is the best way biggrin.gif
Edited by Scrubls - 9/5/13 at 11:06am
     
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post #13 of 31
silverstone heligon he01 is a bit better than NH D14 and it's cheaper biggrin.gif
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post #14 of 31
Best stock out of the box is Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme with it's 2 140x25mm 130cfm/2500rpm TY-143 fans. Next is Silverstone HE01 with it's single 171cfm/2000rpm 140x38mm FHP141fan. Both coolers use PWM control so fans stay quiet unless you are really pushing the OC load and therefore heat.

How well your case is flowing air and cooling is just if not more important than what cooler you use. If your case has 1c warmer air than room your CPU will be 1c warmer too... and if it's 5c warmer in the case CPU will be 5c warmer. I post this basic but by no means complete tutorial often. It's a work in progress:
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There is much more to cooling than good cases and good CPU / GPU coolers. Modern GPU's make more heat than CPU... and getting that heat out of the case can be a challenge.

Setting up the case to cool properly is the hardest and most time consuming part of a build... And the most neglected by most builders.

We need at least as much volume of air flowing through the case as the total of CPU and GPU fans flow through their coolers. If we do not have as much air coming into and going out of case as CPU and GPU coolers are passing through and heating up than some of that heated cooler exhaust has to be re-circulated through the coolers. This means the cooler run hotter because the air going through them is hotter.

Cases, especially those with filters, usually benefit from fans with higher static pressure ratings than stock fans... "cooler" fans instead of "case" fans.
Intakes are typically more restricted than exhaust; air filter, more restrictive grill, HDD cage, etc.
I prefer more intake than exhaust. And don't confuse number of fans with amount of airflow... or airflow with airblow

airflow is flowing cool air from intake to component and flowing hot air from component out of case without the hot air mixing with the cool air.

airblow is lots of fans blowing air with some of hot air from components mixing with cool air making it warmer resulting in warm air not cooling components as well as the cool air will.

Putting fans in case as intake and/or exhaust is only the first step. These fans only move air in and out of case.

This does not mean heated air is not mixing with cool air.

Nor does it mean cool air is going to where it is needed.

Getting the air to flow inside of case properly is even more important. We still need to manage where the air flows inside the case. We can do this several ways; deflectors, cooler intake fans, exhaust fans, removing vent grills, using fans with higher pressure/airflow, building ducts to or from CPU/GPU cooler, etc.

Using a remote temperature sensor to monitor what air temps are is the key to finding out where the cool air is flowing and knowing heated air is not mixing into it. By monitoring this we can than make changes to get airflow the way we want it.

I monitor the temps with a cheap indoor/outdoor wired remote or terrarium digital thermometer. Twist a piece of stiff insulated wire into the last 8" of sensor lead so you can bend it to position sensor where you want it... like 40mm in front of your GPU cooler/radiator intake.. to see what the air temp going into CPU / GPU cooler is compared to room temp. The closer it is to room temp the better.. Shouldn't be more 5c maximum, 2-3c is what I usually end up with after 30 minutes full load on both CPU and GPU. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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post #15 of 31
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Originally Posted by Mopar63 View Post

The 212 is an amazing cooler for the cost and that's why people buy it. It gives good cooling and lets you put the money in other places.
Indeed. The 212 gives a lot better cooling than the stock, very cheap, and relatively easy to hit 4.5 on it with most chips. I do think the Noctua is still the best aircooler, but I haven't been into aircooling products for a long time tongue.gif
And isn't the NH-D14 known for being a great cooler aswell as deadquiet, and that's why so many pick it?
post #16 of 31
We've all seen numerous articles etc trying to identify the best high end cooler or best high end thermal compound etc, but personally I felt the results were almost insignificant when it came to the difference seen after de-lidding my i7-3770k.
post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by Miaauw2513 View Post

Indeed. The 212 gives a lot better cooling than the stock, very cheap, and relatively easy to hit 4.5 on it with most chips. I do think the Noctua is still the best aircooler, but I haven't been into aircooling products for a long time tongue.gif
And isn't the NH-D14 known for being a great cooler aswell as deadquiet, and that's why so many pick it?
NH-D14 is still one of the best coolers but it is no longer the King.
There are many now running in the same pack... and several are just as quiet.
Even the Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme and Silverstone HE01 are only a few dBA louder and cool about the same when fans are running at same speed. And if you put high flow fans on NH-D14 it performs about the same as SA SB-E Extreme and HE01.

It's more about which cooler you like best than which cooler is actually best. That and how good customer support is. From experience I can say Phanteks and Noctua both have great customer service. Thermalright is still good but getting new mounting kits for older cooler is sometimes a problem. Many don't even make new mounting kits for older coolers or respond to correspondence.
post #18 of 31
Haven't used the others, but the Silverstone HE01 does a good job, and is designed in a way that it won't interfere with the RAM slots on the motherboard.
     
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post #19 of 31
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Haven't used the others, but the Silverstone HE01 does a good job, and is designed in a way that it won't interfere with the RAM slots on the motherboard.
I've heard some say they don't like the way the fan sounds. What are your thoughts?
post #20 of 31
Hyper 212 is the best value. Great performance for the price.

The NH-U14S performs usually within a degree or better than the NH-D14 depending on which review I'm looking at (sometimes they perform the same, sometimes the NH-U14S behind by one degree, sometimes it's ahead. Same in comparison to some other dual-tower coolers). The only problem with the U14S is that it might block the top expansion slot. You also might have some RAM clearance problems if you have tall heatsinks on your RAM.
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