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I'll do some debating between the rive and the dark, perhaps I can find some more reviews. Any other high end boards I should take into consideration?
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I think I actually will scrounge up the extra coin for an EVGA X79 Dark, its been getting good reviews and I'd like to match my high end desktop with a high end motherboard. I don't think I'd be okay with the rig if I cheap out on a motherboard.

I would advice the Ga x79 up4, but if you wanna squeeze the very last mhz out of your cpu, nothing beats Rampage 4 Extreme.
EVGA DARK in not as good as Rampage 4 for overclocking. The Rampage 4 has already proven the best. thumb.gif
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I've had several LGA-2011 boards, and the only one's you can reasonably expect to have working firmware are the higher end ASUS boards.

EVGA Dark hasn't been out long enough to get a real gauge of it's stability or firmware maturity, and previous EVGA boards do not inspire confidence. I would be extremely hesitant to buy such a board after my own experiences with immature firmware.
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I would advice the Ga x79 up4, but if you wanna squeeze the very last mhz out of your cpu, nothing beats Rampage 4 Extreme.
EVGA DARK in not as good as Rampage 4 for overclocking. The Rampage 4 has already proven the best. thumb.gif
I would agree with both statements. Asus has the best track record. Gigabyte has released a couple of firmware-revisions just in the last week, the X79-UP4 had all the downloads pulled, then F3 was released coupled with a F4 beta, and now only the release version of F4 is available. I haven't bothered with any of them, the F3u-beta works for me. I probably won't bother with any new firmware until I upgrade the CPU on my board, if ever. It works great as it is now, don't fix something that isn't broken! This board has given me a headache, trying many different firmware revisions/betas etc before I got something that actually worked stable.

Pcper had an unimpressive experience with the Evga Dark, didn't overclock well.
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The highest 100% stable clock speed I was able to hit at 1.40v was 4.3 GHz with a 43x multiplier. This was with PLL override enabled and with VDroop disabled. I was able to run at 4.4 GHz for a very limited amount of time but in no condition I would recommend to a user. At 1.4v though I was quite happy with the 73C temperatures of the 22nm, densely packed 1.68 billion transistors.

Even pushing voltages up to 1.45v did not allow us to get any higher than 4.3 GHz. I am pretty disappointed with this result even though we saw some impressive performance bumps at 4.3 GHz. Keep in mind that this is 4.3 GHz on ALL CORES which is basically a 600 MHz increase over the stock setting (16% or so).

They had better luck with the Asus P9X79 Pro
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As you can see above we were able to overclock the processor to 4.413 GHz at UEFI set voltage of only 1.40v. Previously we were only reaching a 4.3 GHz overclock and even had to up the voltage a bit higher.

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I would advice the Ga x79 up4, but if you wanna squeeze the very last mhz out of your cpu, nothing beats Rampage 4 Extreme.
EVGA DARK in not as good as Rampage 4 for overclocking. The Rampage 4 has already proven the best. thumb.gif
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I would agree with both statements. Asus has the best track record. Gigabyte has released a couple of firmware-revisions just in the last week, the X79-UP4 had all the downloads pulled, then F3 was released coupled with a F4 beta, and now only the release version of F4 is available. I haven't bothered with any of them, the F3u-beta works for me. I probably won't bother with any new firmware until I upgrade the CPU on my board, if ever. It works great as a it is now, don't fix something that isn't broken! I had plenty of grief with this board, trying many different firmware revisions/betas etc before I got something that actually worked stable.

Pcper had a unimpressive experience with the Evga Dark, didn't overclock well at al.

They had better luck with the Asus P9X79 Pro
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Thanks for all that info!

Do the Hexacores typically not get up to 4.7+GHz ? I had my 2500k @ 5.0 and my 3770k @ 4.9 (after some delidding and lapping) but what clocks should I be expecting on a 4930k?
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Thanks for all that info!
No problem, glad you found the links useful smile.gif
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Do the Hexacores typically not get up to 4.7+GHz ? I had my 2500k @ 5.0 and my 3770k @ 4.9 (after some delidding and lapping) but what clocks should I be expecting on a 4930k?
I can't really say, I don't really have any experience with overclocking the hexacores. What I have heard is that overclocking the Ivy Bridge-E is quite similar to overclocking the Sandy Bridge-E. The main difference is that Ivy consumes significantly less power. There are guides for Sandy Bridge-E overclocking right here on OCN, here is one by Sin: http://www.overclock.net/t/1189242/sandy-bridge-e-overclocking-guide-walk-through-explanations-and-support-for-all-x79-overclockers
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Thanks, and one last thing it seems newegg has a deal for the next 74 hours you can all desktop memory at 10% off and the new board I'm getting has 4 channels and 8 slots so I figure I'd get 8 sticks of 4gb (32GB).. Any suggestions on which memory to go with ? Is the memory I already have okay for the rig and just buy 4 more sticks of it?

i7-4930k
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
RAM?
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Do the Hexacores typically not get up to 4.7+GHz ? I had my 2500k @ 5.0 and my 3770k @ 4.9 (after some delidding and lapping) but what clocks should I be expecting on a 4930k?

Here are some reviews for the 4960X:
http://www.overclockers.com/intel-ivy-bridge-e-4960x-cpu-review
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/63024-intel-i7-4960x-ivy-bridge-e-review-21.html
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_core_i7_4960x/
http://techreport.com/review/25293/intel-core-i7-4960x-processor-reviewed
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ivy-Bridge-E-Intel-Core-i7-4960X-Processor-Review
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_4960x_processor_review,1.html

Their max stable overclock are(respectively):
4.6GHz
4.55GHz
4.44GHz
4.7GHz
4.3GHz
4.6GHz

However MetalRacer over at Overclockers.Com has benched his 4930K at 5.2GHz and can be seen here: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=736150&page=3
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Any other high end boards I should take into consideration?

The ASUS WS boards.

I used a P9X79 WS (not the newer/larger E version) for an extended period of time and it's easily one of my favorite LGA-2011 boards. Layout can be rather tricky with large air coolers, however.
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Do the Hexacores typically not get up to 4.7+GHz

4.3 to 4.6GHz, 24/7, is typical for an SB-E, on good air or entry level water, and Ivy-E doesn't seem like it will be much different.
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