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Yeah, they're kind of like the Corsair or SeaSonic of the bad PSUs: they're the most well-known brand on the list of "avoid at all costs" PSUs. I would bet that out of all of the people in the world who only know enough to say "I recommend Corsair" or "I recommend SeaSonic", I'd bet that at least half of them would also know to say "and avoid Diablotek".

Of course, there are other brands to avoid. Here are some just from Newegg's inventory alone:
  • APEVIA
  • APEX
  • Athena
  • Compucase
  • Coolmax (although, some of Coolmax's PSUs are slightly better than the rest of these junker PSUs, but still not recommendable)
  • Diablotek (mentioned for the sake of completeness)
  • ePOWER
  • Logisys
  • Raidmax (except, I think they have about 1 or maybe 2 that are relatively ok, but still - avoid this brand too)
  • Startech
  • Topower
  • VisionTek
  • Xigmatek? I think?
  • XION
  • Zalman? I think?


So, even though I keep saying, "when it comes to PSUs, it's not about brand names", we can still say that there are brands names to avoid. It doesn't matter how low the price is, none of them are worth it unless you're building a basic office PC. Even then, I would be much more comfortable with the cheapest recommended PSU. At least that way I know my little investment (the basic office PC) will last as long as it's expected to last, and, most importantly, it will always be stable.

You forgot SevenTeam

As well as

MS Team
Energon
LC Power
Ultra
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You forgot SevenTeam

As well as

MS Team
Energon
LC Power
Ultra

 

SevenTeam doesn't have Retail PSUs in the U.S. and neither does MS Team (besides, I've never heard of MS Team).

 

I haven't heard of Energon.

 

You're right that I forgot LC Power and Ultra. However, there is one Bronze-rated unit made by LC Power that I heard is actually a very decent unit. Unfortunately, I am not remembering which one it is because I genuinely don't care for LC-Power as a PSU manufacturer. lol As far as I'm concerned, they can stick it just like the rest that we listed.

 

Ultra is indeed another that I forgot. However, again, the list I made is from Newegg's inventory (just to make a point of how many "avoid at all costs" brands there are just from one store). So, I think you missed that part. Why mention brands that aren't in their inventory when I said I'm only listing brands from their inventory? My goal wasn't to name every "avoid at all costs" brand in existence, just the ones in Newegg's inventory.

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SevenTeam doesn't have Retail PSUs in the U.S. and neither does MS Team (besides, I've never heard of MS Team).

I haven't heard of Energon.

You're right that I forgot LC Power and Ultra. However, there is one Bronze-rated unit made by LC Power that I heard is actually a very decent unit. Unfortunately, I am not remembering which one it is because I genuinely don't care for LC-Power as a PSU manufacturer. lol As far as I'm concerned, they can stick it just like the rest that we listed.

Ultra is indeed another that I forgot. However, again, the list I made is from Newegg's inventory (just to make a point of how many "avoid at all costs" brands there are just from one store). So, I think you missed that part. Why mention brands that aren't in their inventory when I said I'm only listing brands from their inventory? My goal wasn't to name every "avoid at all costs" brand in existence, just the ones in Newegg's inventory.

Energon is the EU version of Diablotek

We dont have Diablotek here but we have Energon and MS Team or was it MS Tek/Tech???

Anyway all are trash
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Energon is the EU version of Diablotek

We dont have Diablotek here but we have Energon and MS Team or was it MS Tek/Tech???

Anyway all are trash

 

Yeah, and the point is to show how careful one must be when shopping for PSUs.

 

Now, this doesn't mean you guys can go with any PSUs from the brands we haven't mentioned (such as Corsair) because even then you run the risk of getting ripped off.

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well ultras not all that bad they just seem a bit dated and such dont really have the 12v rails to do anything crazy but some of there units are of good quality but i see your point i am wondering why the op is in such a rush to get new video cards instead of making sure he has the psu to handle them i personally would have waited unless he is getting a very good deal on the cards but i would have to agree that Diablotek is a horrible brand and i fear for the safety of the op when running such a unit sad-smiley-002.gif
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well ultras not all that bad they just seem a bit dated and such dont really have the 12v rails to do anything crazy but some of there units are of good quality but i see your point i am wondering why the op is in such a rush to get new video cards instead of making sure he has the psu to handle them i personally would have waited unless he is getting a very good deal on the cards but i would have to agree that Diablotek is a horrible brand and i fear for the safety of the op when running such a unit sad-smiley-002.gif

 

It's due to a lack of knowledge. If he knew what we know, then he'd realize that the only wise investment that can be made right now is buying a good PSU.

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well ultras not all that bad they just seem a bit dated and such dont really have the 12v rails to do anything crazy but some of there units are of good quality but i see your point i am wondering why the op is in such a rush to get new video cards instead of making sure he has the psu to handle them i personally would have waited unless he is getting a very good deal on the cards but i would have to agree that Diablotek is a horrible brand and i fear for the safety of the op when running such a unit sad-smiley-002.gif

Ultra are nowhere near quality

The X4 seems like the best Ultra but thats not saying anything really
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Hey guys can I have some info to back up what your saying about the unit real hard evidence.
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Hey guys can I have some info to back up what your saying about the unit real hard evidence.

Evidence ?

I'll read the news from Atlanta,GA in the upcoming days.
I'll spot the first house fire and I'll assume it was your house.
Afterall, Diablotek is just a mismarketed firestarter steel wool.

EDIT: BTW, don't even try to sell it $5 on craigslist, nobody would buy this as brand new, let alone used.
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Hey guys can I have some info to back up what your saying about the unit real hard evidence.

I can't quote from my phone but go to conclusions and read about the load tests.
http://m.hardocp.com/article/2010/12/17/diablotek_phd650_650w_power_supply_review/9#.UkSjAsvn_qA
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